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 68beetle
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| posted on October 10th, 2005 at 02:33 PM |
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Strongest stud pattern/disc brake conversion
Hi all,
Still planning the necessary upgrades for the charity rally beetle (theme is Black Betty).
Anyway, have a 66 just out of rego beetle (and 61 donor car) as a starting point. One upgrade which has been recommended is the installation of disc
brakes on the front.
I know several people supply the conversion kits. My question is whether I should just get a wide-five conversion for the front or whether the 4-stud
pattern is better in any way.
Has anyone had any troubles or experience with the wide-five conversion in a rough road situation?
Cheers all
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| posted on October 10th, 2005 at 03:24 PM |
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The stud pattern/spacing is not really the issue.
It depends on what type of stub axles you are using.
Going for wide 5, i presume you are going to use a T1 LP beam yer?
The T1 stub axles are the weakest item. (25mm Dia)
In Formula Vees, these are very prone to breakage, right up where the inner wheel bearing sits up against the spacer.This is particularly on the side
with the speedo cable hole thru the stub.
Altho in Tasmania, with its anti-clockwise circuits, we have broken 3 of the RH side (solid) stubs as well in the last couple of seasons and cracked
many more!
They require regular dye penetrant crack checking and are enough of a drama for the Formula Vee Association of Australia to have custom made tougher
stub axles for T1 F-Vee front LP beams.
Breakage is unheard of with the much tougher T1 BJ beam.
However, unless you are really going to seriously off-road bash the shit out of this thing then choose whatever stud pattern that best suits the
wheels you are going to fit.
Have fun.
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[ Edited on 10/10/05 by tassupervee ]
Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
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68beetle
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| posted on October 11th, 2005 at 10:05 AM |
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Cheers,
Thanks for that. Sounds like my stub axles will do. I'll stick with the wide 5 by the look of things. Just going to post another question regarding
upgrading the rear drums. If it looks best to convert the rear to 4 stud i'll do the same at the front.
Thanks again.
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2443TT
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| posted on November 6th, 2005 at 11:21 PM |
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Convert the front to ball joint with disc brakes (4 stud) and get a set of type 3 rear drums. This is about as good a brake system you can get till
you step up to some sort of porsche based converison. You'll get the capability to adjust the front camber when you do this too.
Provided your car's got less that 120hp and your not doing heavy braking all the time they'll hold and won't fade (much). Above 140hp you'll heat
the rotors rapidly when your into it and brakes will disappear very quickly.
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| posted on November 7th, 2005 at 07:44 AM |
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That requires a chassis swap...
Pay your debts, CxxT
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