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 crewcabconnection
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 08:17 PM |
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Not an arguement - Turbo 1600 in a splitter?
From previous thread about EJ22s in splitters...any thought's, links, previous threads on going for a turbo 1600 instead? I am a newbie to this, so
please keep it simple - technically speaking.
Who does it/did it - how hard, how much, what improvement over stock?
My bus is IRS, so planning Lbug box....understand the issue over brakes etc., but was hoping to keep this thread to the discussion of turbo
motor/box/transaxle etc., not brake swaps etc.,
Thanks in anticipation....
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 08:26 PM |
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i can't really help ya, but im keen to see it happen 
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 08:29 PM |
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This site should give you an idea on what kind of power you should get on a 1600
http://www.lowbugget.com/1600t.html |
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 09:48 PM |
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thanks, so here's the pic from that site. Notice they are talking 120bhp at about 4000 revs off a stock 1600 motor, or 230% more go. Who does this
stuff locally? Looks like a lot of 'making' otherwise....
Whos' got one locally?
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 10:02 PM |
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Wow.. if only they made those kits for a type 3! They look like so much fun!
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 10:16 PM |
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Yanks have some very funny HP numbers.
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 10:38 PM |
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The fabrication wouldn't be that hard. But that engine bay looks like there'd be a lot of heat in there.That's not good for an aircooled motor.
Certaintly not sure about the 230% increase. It wouldn't last long with that much extra stress and heat.
Ideally it would be better to use EFI and an intercooler. I know that sounds expensive, but every car manufacterer who used turbos ended up using both
of them.
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| posted on October 19th, 2005 at 10:44 PM |
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heres a link to one that is/was for sale
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewthread.php?tid=43717&page=1#pid406909
looks like good value for a quick result
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| posted on October 20th, 2005 at 06:57 AM |
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that is very good value:thumb
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| posted on October 20th, 2005 at 01:43 PM |
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If that was your thing i would buy that one.
Not worth the effort trying to recreate it for the asking $$$
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| posted on October 20th, 2005 at 02:22 PM |
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wouldn't actually fit in a splitty, the turbo and intercooler would be either in or directly under the fuel tank.
mmm, hot turbo + fuel tank :duh
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| posted on October 20th, 2005 at 10:47 PM |
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i'm sure a lil bit of imagination would see the turbo relocated.............if i hadn't just spent TWICE+++ that much moula, to get exactly the same
setup (not assembled), it would be long gone.
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| posted on October 20th, 2005 at 10:56 PM |
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i was thinkn of it but was advised to much heat ,plus reliablity if its a daily driver and your not a mech like me "just a view" no harm, id love a
turbo in mine and was seriously considering it but
took the advice and getting a solid 1776 cc
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| posted on October 20th, 2005 at 11:00 PM |
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Yeah you want a hideaway style header to put the heat under the car. Also definatly consider porsche cooling and some minor body mods to improve the
air flow thru to the engine bay. (like those scoops that bolt on to the later model bus's).
So there's an easy $2500 to get you started... barely... if you include a T28 Nissan S14 turbo, which is an ideal match for a 1600. Thats also the
same turbo as the low bugget kit uses.
Then you just need an engine built to handle boost. With stock heads you MUST have intercooling. I've yet to pull apart a 1600 that has standard 040
heads that doesn't have cracks between the seats and spark plug hole, let alone anything that was mildly worked. The heat generated from the turbo
and resulting increase in combustion temps WILL crack the heads. Its just a matter of time.
So you know its possible, I made 165 at the rear wheels at 16lb from a 1641cc engine, but all the internals of the engine were basically full race
parts. Heads were CB 044's. The long block is worth about $4500 and I also had about $4500 worth of electronics (efi and ignition) plus intercooling
on it as well. Its powering my bench at the moment waiting a rebuild and upgrade to 1916, or maybe a wrx head conversion 
I've got to ask.. are you just trying to go faster, want more overtaking power or what? For reliability I think you'd be better off with a type 4
and maybe a supercharger if you want to do something a little easier. A blow thru DCOE with a 4age-ze supercharger would do 120hp easy at modest
boost, plus not have any of the overheating issues.
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| posted on October 21st, 2005 at 10:25 AM |
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| Quote: | Notice they are
talking 120bhp at about 4000 revs off a stock 1600 motor, or 230% more go.
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Quarter horses or shetland ponies.
It's not the engine screaming its the wanker talking.
I was going to join the Democrats to keep the bastards honest, but joined the forum instead.
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