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 PurpleT3
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| posted on December 5th, 2005 at 08:10 AM |
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Bay Kombi won't start when hot
Recently we've been having a problem with the Kombi (75 2L bog stock). It will start fine, but when it's hot, say after a 15min drive, and you stop
and then try and restart, the starter motor struggles and sounds like the battery is flat. If you leave it for around 30min and try again, it starts
no problems.
To me this indicates a temperature related problem, but what is causing it. Any ideas?
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| posted on December 5th, 2005 at 08:50 AM |
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I would get the starter motor looked at. It may need overhauling.
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| posted on December 5th, 2005 at 08:52 AM |
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Actually thinking for a second, heat creats resistance, so it may also be earth strap from gearbox to body, or main power lead to starter also. It
will be a main power or earth lead.
Starter motors do have problems when they are worn and they get hot too.
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| posted on December 5th, 2005 at 11:47 AM |
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Yep as Hell bus says.
Check your leads first for breakages and bad connections at each end as their easy to do yourself.
Also be sure to check the power lead from the ignition switch to the relay on the starter, they are prone to suffer voltage drop.
If this does not help it's time to look at the starter itself (assuming the battery/charging is fine).
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| posted on December 5th, 2005 at 12:50 PM |
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starter motor solinoid perhaps?
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| posted on December 5th, 2005 at 02:32 PM |
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Sounds to me like a combination of two things:
1. The carb gets hot when you've been switched off for only 5 minutes, and so the fuel vapourises which stops it flowing... and you have to wait half
an hour until the carb cools down again. I've heard of several ways people have attenmpted to fix this, everything from making aluminium
heat-shields for the carb to wrapping the carb in a wet rag. I've also heard that a bad coil can mimick a vapour problem.
2. You say that "the starter motor struggles and sounds like the battery is flat"... I assume this means the starter turns the engine over in a slow
& sluggish way? If so it could be caused by an old tired battery, and/or a bad connection between starter and battery (either the fat red wire, or
any of the ground straps). But this is definately NOT a sypmtom of a bad solenoid: if the solenoid is working then the starter speed is not affected,
if the solenoid is not working then you get NOTHING from the starter. A solenoid with dirty contacts can intermittently prevent the starter from
turning, but again you get all-or-nothing.
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| posted on December 5th, 2005 at 07:25 PM |
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am following this thread as had a similar problem a couple of times ,where the motor turns over very sluggish but wont start and mine is a efi
caravelle and the battery is only 8 months old
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| posted on December 9th, 2005 at 02:24 PM |
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happened again today ,was at home so investigated some things, charging at 13.5 volts ,starter felt very hot ,even tried jumper lead from batt to
starter ,to get it started, jumped it from our holden,ran it a couple of mins then all was well,still very puzzling,
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| posted on December 9th, 2005 at 05:38 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by PurpleT3
Recently we've been having a problem with the Kombi (75 2L bog stock). It will start fine, but when it's hot, say after a 15min drive, and you stop
and then try and restart, the starter motor struggles and sounds like the battery is flat. If you leave it for around 30min and try again, it starts
no problems.
To me this indicates a temperature related problem, but what is causing it. Any ideas?
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I had exactly this issue with my buggy. I ended up putting an extra battery cable from one of the starter mounting bolts to the -ve terminal on the
battery. The starter never struggles now.
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[ Edited on 9-12-2005 by pete wood ]
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| posted on December 9th, 2005 at 08:32 PM |
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plus also the quality of fuel that you are using may contribute to the problem as well..
a suggestion if you are not already doing so..
use a higher octane fuel and run some flash lube with it..
cheers paul
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