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 DIY-DUB
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 06:38 PM |
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At what point do you give up and rebody or scrap the car?
been attacking the rusted and bogged up bits on the LHS of my bug all day, and its pretty nasty, goes all along the channel, metal looks solid but a
jab with a screwdriver goes thru it with 1 or 2 goes at the most, theres no bottom of it at all, it was just bog with paint over it, looked exactlyy
like metal till i stabbed it thru the top, um took the LH front guard off and wire wheeled further down, and the outside of the a pillar, the pillar
looked mint, until i saw the back anyway, um the rust goes up to about the 2x bolts that im pretty sure the body is bolted to the pan, suffice to say
im rather unhappy/upset that the end of my bug seems near:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry, i can weld really well so it is fixable but just dont know if it
will be worth it:cry:cry:cry:cry, repair sections are worth $250 a side ive been told!!!! not havin a job currently dosent help the fact but that will
be changing soon, hey penguin if you read this do you want 2 come around and have a look and maybe take some pics to put up on here? input appreciated
from everyone, and PLEASE DONT say 2 junk it just because you want some stuff from it:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 06:59 PM |
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kill it and junk it. then buy one with a beam front end.
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 07:23 PM |
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what year is it? if its after '67 crush it and make yourself a nice coffee table 
that will spark up the debate. :tree
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 08:28 PM |
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I had the same sort of problem FCB!
I started working on Harriett and the more i worked on her, the more rust appeared. Eventually i had to make the sad decision to scrap her and get
another body. It was a hard decision to make, but the better option! Now i look at it as it was Harriett's time to go, but i have given another bug a
chance at life. Her name is Mildred, and she loves me for it!
1963 Single Cab Ute: "El Concreto"
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 08:34 PM |
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Depends how attached you are to the car...
I started work on one like that and scrapped it once I found how much rust was in there but it comes down to what it is and what you want to do with
it...
If it's a '52 split then you wouldn't be asking and if you're wanting a concourse restored beetle then chances are you'd be doing that sort of
work to it anyway..
If it's just gunna be an old bomb beater then salvage your dignity and whatever parts you can use and scrap the car in favour of a better one...
If you stand back and look at it and all you see is a dis-heartening amount of work, get out before it puts you off VW's all together...
I hate to admit it, but man, I think you're right....
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 08:59 PM |
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im VERY attached to it, dont want 2 have 2 scrap it at all, tomorrow will bring the verdict id say, going to do the RHS tomorrow, praying that its not
as bad, not very likely but i can hope :cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 09:20 PM |
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if u dont want to scrap it keep it, but scrap your avatar:P
it looks like you used a commodore 64 to design it 
[ Edited on 13-12-2005 by XXX-1.8T ]
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 09:31 PM |
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When to scrap it will depend on how attached to the current body (ie. does it mean something to you in particular?)....also how much time you are
willing to devote to it welding (it takes a hell of a long time). No-one can really answer the question for you as it will depend on your dedication
and patience.
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 09:39 PM |
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Look at getting a good body from some where and just swapping it over
BUT
If the pan, body and mechanicals are crap ................. well sit back and think seriously.
But if the motor and suspension and running gear is good, and the pan is good, then seriously think of just swapping bodies.
There are heaps of good 1302 bodies out there.
Then since you have kept the VIN number on the pan the same, and just swapped the plates over (:thumb) technically it is the same car.
You could do it for ..... $500?? and a lot of work
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 09:40 PM |
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that avtar thing is brilliant did it in paint, im so not an arty type so i like it, only just figured out how 2 make the gif thingos 2 so im proud of
it so nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. lol, im attached to it plenty but still wish to be classified as sane, i know how long welding takes, well its
the measuring checking measuring checking etc that takes ages the weld itself is the quickest bit of it, provided you do it right the 1st time, thats
the other thing im trying to figure out for myself how much of this car has to remain for it to be of the same value to me? cant figure this out other
than it should have the main components as the ones that were there originally, ie body and pan, the engine will stay for a while, but its of less
importance to me, yes that may sound funny i know, but yeah sentimental value... its a bitch aint it?
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 09:47 PM |
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thanks bizzare, true i just have to find the appropriate body or complete car, seems i may be borrowing a trailer from a relative and goin 2 buy a
super or 2 to cut up 2 donate to mine, then part out the rest to cover expenses, this is 1 option ive thought of, or just pack my shelves etc in the
shed with all the bits, clean them till they are all spotless, store for a while, leave the pan on my side of the garage so the other side can be
used, hoist the body off and hang from the roof, stripped, work on it slowly as i get the parts and time to do so, will all depend on tomorrow anyway
cause the neighbours dont appreciate me workin all night making noise, um will keep everyone posted and mite go borrow a digi cam from someone to take
some pics for everyone so you can all see how bad it is
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| posted on December 13th, 2005 at 09:48 PM |
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Yes sentimental value can cost you lots in the long run (time and money).
I started with a 63 beetle and pan.....after 2 1/2 years of resto the only original components are the main shell (minus all the rust repair panels),
glove box lid and decklid. A 1970 pan was less work (and had b/j front end), then bonnet, doors, guards etc etc were all sourced. I could have found a
better body but it was a challenge, and I promised the old couple that gave it to me that I would restore it!
So do what you need to do to get it done, if it means a replacement body will get the car back on the road sooner to avoid the potential of another
unfinished resto project....then do the swap. If however you are committed and will see the major body work through to the end, well no real reason
not to stick with the current body. Sounds like I am talking in circles though and not making sense. :alien
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 09:02 AM |
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if your sentimental, buy yourself a good cheap on -the- road beetle to drive and in the meantime strip yours completely, cut out all the rust and
repair slowly, knowing that you have a cool VW ride in the meantime, that is why i am driving a type3 at the moment, i rushed some things last time on
my bus and this time as i have cool transport my kombi engine conversion can take as long as it has to.
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 10:09 AM |
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GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE RHS IS SOLID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! except for a small section above the
jacking point, im sayin its salvageable now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 10:14 AM |
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 good to hear
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 10:16 AM |
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why do i get the feeling that someone put a battery or something on the RHS instead of where its meant to be???? seems odd that the opposite side is
worse than the batttery, also figure the front may be from someone spilling brake fluid or something???
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 10:18 AM |
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cheers camper kid im happy again, but i want me xmas pressie now dammit, will be happy day when i attach new metal 2 it, love my bug again, woooooo
hooooo :bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 12:20 PM |
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GREAT NEWS EVERYONE the RHS is totally solid thru the middle! I LOVE THE SIGHT OF BARE METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the rear section
behind the doors is stuffed tho, and the front is patchy but SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than the LHS, going to hunt for a camera so i
can show everyone how nice and shiny it is, also seems like the RHS section has been repaired properly at some point as some bits are seam welded
aswell as spot welded, thank god for that, at least now i have an example of how it will look when done properly!!!!!!!!!!!!! gotta love being able to
weld!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 02:25 PM |
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Ever thought of dipping it? Once done you start with a clean car ready for body work, No surprises!
T54
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 02:36 PM |
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that means more expense tho, besides a couple packs of $5 wire brushes from bunnings work great with a little elbow grease, top buy everyone, work
brilliantly, 5 or 6 peice one red cardbord backing, new update, someone must just hate me cos my last ratchet just broke, wont ratchet anymore just
spins freely in both directions no matter what i do, like poo, will have to go the old way of wrench or extenssion bar on the socket, damn ratchets
make it so much easier... HEY anyone wanna buy me a rattle gun for chritmas???
peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze kisskiss lol
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| posted on December 14th, 2005 at 04:33 PM |
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i had to take dads car seats out of the commodore using nothnig more than a wrench and tube of steel. Tey were pretty tight, and doing them with a
millino different things in the way, i can understand how u feel. (except dad was surprised how quick i got em out, compared to the fella who got it
out for dad at the wreckers).
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