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 fekkinell
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 posted on March 7th, 2006 at 07:41 PM |
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Mobile Phone Laws
So... according to a fresh faced constable from Victoria Police, I have committed the heinous crime of... wait for it... using a mobile phone while
driving.
Result: $141 fine and 3points
BUT...
...if we investigate further...
1. I wasn't moving...
2. I was in a carpark...
3. His reasoning was that " i wasn't in an actual parking space, therefore am in control of a vehicle"...
But wait... there's more... he told me that 'there were 3 cars waiting and i was in their way'... even though it was in fact the police car parked
across an intersection in the carpark that was causing the disruption, as other cars had been passing me without problems.
I don't blame the tosser... i mean... officer... because he was only doing his job. But you know there's something awry when you get booked for
doing the right thing and pulling over to use your phone.
My advice to everyone... if you are going to pull over to use your phone in Victoria, turn off your engine, take out your keys, walk 100 metres away
from your car and sit behind a rubbish bin 
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 07:47 PM |
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bad luck mate. you'd like to think that common sense would prevail and the cop would see that you were doin the right thing. can't argue with
stupidity, it never knows when it has lost.
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 07:48 PM |
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bummer, almost copped it a week or so ago. Stopped at lights on the inside lame in a right hand turning lane and lights were red. Fone started ringing
and it was a mate who i cudnt b bothered 2 talk to so passed the fone to my other mate, looked up and sure enough 2 pigs sitting on the other side of
the intersection watching me. When they got green both were glaring at me lol.... Bet they were spewing, couldnt pull up another vw driver for
committing a crime... One thing about this phone law, its ok because both hands arent on the wheel, but what about eating and smoking especially!
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:13 PM |
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that sucks!
Since when is it safer to drive a moving vehicle with a lit flame burning in your hand or mouth than it is to drive when your mouth is flapping on a
phone! I think smokers should cop fines too.
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:23 PM |
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Years ago if you were sleeping off a drunk on a park bench and you had the car keys on you and the car was nearby, you were busted for DUI. You had to
hide the keys or you were done. This phone thing is more of the same.
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:36 PM |
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Might be worth appealing this. Go back and park the car in the place it was. Take some photos and send them in with a detailed letter with all the
facts. If it goes bad you go to court for a day. As I understand it, if you loose you pay the fine, if you win, then you just loose a day's pay.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
My mum got done by a speed camera (70 in a 60zone) a few years back in a place with no signs. She wrote a letter telling them she'd never a had a
fine for speeding before and there were no signs. They overturned it and gave her the points back.
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:41 PM |
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Here's one for ya.
Fleur got a parking fine in the Helbus. The Infringement is dated Sat 03 06 06. The Incident date on the fine is Mon 06 03 06. Now seeing as Sat 03 06
06 has not arrived yet (And it does say Sat on the fine). Would this mean they are forward dating the fine, made a mistake, or need to be told it is
an invalid fine?
What are the chances of getting it wiped? Anyone had joy with this kind of thing before?
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:46 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by fekkinell
My advice to everyone... if you are going to pull over to use your phone in Victoria, turn off your engine, take out your keys, walk 100 metres away
from your car and sit behind a rubbish bin
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Be carefull, you might get done for abandening you vehicle.
Lee.
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they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:50 PM |
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Well said Hipichic, Im with you. Smokers should be fined as well.
Just my 2c.
Bad luck fekkinell, you may have a case there though.....
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:52 PM |
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There's some pretty dangerous nose pickers out there. Right in up to the second knuckle sometimes. Get on to them too
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 08:59 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by hipichic
that sucks!
Since when is it safer to drive a moving vehicle with a lit flame burning in your hand or mouth than it is to drive when your mouth is flapping on a
phone! I think smokers should cop fines too.
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They can and DO. I got done for smoking in my buggy!!!!I've since given up.They were to hard to light!:o
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 09:05 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Helbus
There's some pretty dangerous nose pickers out there. Right in up to the second knuckle sometimes. Get on to them too
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Heheh... i said almost those exact words to my mum in my litte tirade this afternoon...
The stoopid thing is yesterday i was nearly wiped out by a guy in a peugeot who was not only talking on his phone while doing 70kmh (note: not
stationary), but who was also reading a magazine while changing lanes wihout indicating... AND A COP CAR SAILED PAST WITHOUT EVEN BLINKING!!
*sigh*... its so confusing... my little brain can't keep up. 
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 09:50 PM |
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You should get a 2 way radio. I've seen police talking on them while driving.
Have to say that I agree with phone laws though the application in this case is stupid.
I recieved an SMS from my wife one day. I rang her straight back and she said she couldnt talk because she was driving. WTF!
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| posted on March 7th, 2006 at 10:38 PM |
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Just thank your lucky stars he didn't shoot you. It is Victoria afterall.
Fight it. Like Pete said - take some pics and embarrass the poor constable.
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 06:04 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Helbus
Here's one for ya.
Fleur got a parking fine in the Helbus. The Infringement is dated Sat 03 06 06. The Incident date on the fine is Mon 06 03 06. Now seeing as Sat 03 06
06 has not arrived yet (And it does say Sat on the fine). Would this mean they are forward dating the fine, made a mistake, or need to be told it is
an invalid fine?
What are the chances of getting it wiped? Anyone had joy with this kind of thing before?
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I had a similar situation where I wanted to fight a case due to time discrepancies on the infringement notice. I had a rock-solid alibi at the time on
the ticket.
I got some legal advice and the lawyers said that if I took it to court the magistrate would simply amend the charge and get shirty because it would
be a waste of the court's time and resources.
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 06:06 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by fekkinell
My advice to everyone... if you are going to pull over to use your phone in Victoria, turn off your engine, take out your keys, walk 100 metres away
from your car and sit behind a rubbish bin
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you never know he may come to these conclusions:
You're a terrorist planting a bomb in the trash, your mobile is the detonator.
You are making a public 'dump' :repuke
You think you can outsmart the police but he is hip to your lingo. :P
well, least you didnt get pulled over for a cop thinking your rear tyres were wider than fronts on a FWD car..... i mean how can i possibly benefit
from that, less i seriously want understeer.
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 07:06 AM |
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Anyone here watch Myth Busters? I saw an episode a few weeks ago that compared driving talking on a mobile with drink driving. Was a very interesting
outcome. Reaction times and over all control was the same. They concluded that talking on a mobile while driving impaired your driving to a similar
degree as driving at over the legal limit in the US. Higher than ours from memory.
It sounds like your situation was a bit stiff fekkenell.
The ones that have really been scaring me lately is the amount of B Double Trukies that I see driving with a mobile jammed between their head and
shoulders. Been seeing about 1 a day at a very busy intersection near my house. As a old truck driver there is no way you could have complete control
of an articulated truck and trailer, swapping up to 15 gears, negotiating tight intersections and chatting on the phone.
Not bagging truckies in general, but these clowns should really invest in a car kit. 
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 07:12 AM |
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Hi
In Victoria your lucky he didnt shoot you.
Steve
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 07:15 AM |
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do we have a new age ned kelly on our hands? fight the power, i'll meet you at glenrowan!
... i'll text you when i get there
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 09:09 AM |
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I would send a letter in about the wrong date. If they will no delete the ticket, pay the fine and don't go all the way to court? is that an option?
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 12:55 PM |
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I suppose with the parking ticket, we would have 28 days to pay from the date of the notice. That is not for another 3 months, so it would give us 4
months to pay?
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| posted on March 8th, 2006 at 04:58 PM |
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Pay by cheque, date it something like 1/12/2286
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| posted on March 9th, 2006 at 12:19 PM |
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Qld it's $225.00 and 3 points.
Let me out, When I call my name
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| posted on March 9th, 2006 at 05:17 PM |
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Probably one of those myths but has anybody tried the method of OVERPAYING the fine. Supposedly when they send you back a cheque with the excess funds
you dont cash it in and so the transaction is not finalized and the demerit points are not deducted.
I wouldnt know, dont get traffic infringments PFFFTT 
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