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 butidontunderstand
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 03:18 PM |
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how would i fix this? (rust)
so what would i need to fix this myself? doesnt need to be pretty, just to pass pink slip
thanks, karina
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 03:27 PM |
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It would probably be best to get the windscreen out.... depends how far the rust is if it's under the windscreen rubber.
Arm yourself with a small steel brush, and something that inhibits rust is good once you've cleaned it up. You'll probably need some body filler and
sand paper, then some primer and touch up paint if you want it to look better.... :P
I've only ever fixed up rust once though, and that was in my old Ford Laser... the rust was under the engine lid though, so I didn't care how it
looked.
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 04:31 PM |
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there is only one way to fix rust and thats it has to go ie be cut out and replacement steel has to be welded in. but in the short term rust converter
and a wire brush will help
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 04:33 PM |
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Mmmm... I reckon as PBB said.... windscreen would have to come out to do it properly. I suppose the procedures would differ depending on how deep the
rust went into the metal... rust converter might work if its not too bad. or you could cut out the rusty crap and fill it... or you could do it
properly-properly and weld new metal in instead of using bog, but this might take longer and require more skill.
As Tim of the crap kombi said... it's all about making it look right.... if it's dodgy but they cant tell, then it'll pass. 
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 04:51 PM |
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the bodgy way is to grind it out and fill it with bog,well thats the quickest and easiest then sand it back then put some primer on it
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 04:55 PM |
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there is only one way to fix rust and thats it has to go ie be cut out and replacement steel has to be welded in.
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I'm with barls first comment. Sorry it's not gonna be cheap either. Get it done right by a good rust specialist.
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 05:00 PM |
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if you are going to fill, use the good fibreglass re-inforced stuff so it doesnt crack later on.
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 05:05 PM |
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for rego...? Get strip and clean disc, grind off the paint. Bog it, rub it back and primer it. Nasy but enough for rego. Leave the window in. It will
be worse under for sure. Then go and see someone like Pete sed and get it fixed right. I'm with POD. Make sure ya keep the photos to show the shop.
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 05:10 PM |
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the bodgy way is to grind it out and fill it with bog,well thats the quickest and easiest then sand it back then put some primer on it
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Yep... nothing wrong with a little bog here and there... just so long as all traces of rust are removed properly first... or it will just rust
again.
But bog is only good for smallish areas, and really only in cases where there is still metal left underneath after the rust is ground out... if it's
eaten right through the metal to the other side... get it done properly with real metal.
And filling giant holes with bog over chickenwire is highly frowned upon. 
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| posted on May 9th, 2006 at 05:13 PM |
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thats where they all seem to go
bout 7 years ago when the canteen lady at school still owned that car the rear pillars had to get done
they ended up respraying the whole car i think so it held up well considering it was right on the coast at ballina all those years
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 01:17 AM |
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There's more rust there than you'd think. And it's at the base of the pillar, which makes it "structural rust". You can halt the spread and tidy
it up yourself with a little bold chipping and patching, but it won't be safe until it's cut and welded.
First thing to do is attack it with an old screwdriver and a mallet (or bit of wood, to hit the screwdriver). You need to chip the bog off the whole
area I've circled in blue. The green arrows point to the most obvious evidence of hidden cancer.
Watch out for panel beaters, they love to just tack weld the new steel over the exsisting rust (after knocking the area in with a hammer) and then
smear bog everywhere. You'll find backyarders around that will be able to cut it out and properly butt weld a new piece in with full welds. That is
the only way to get the strength back.
Until it's fixed properly, the pillar is weakened and any accident could get real nasty. A bit of bog to hide it will keep the pink slip boys happy,
but they only care about making you follow their rules. They couldn't give a toss about your safety.
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 11:58 AM |
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cut the whole section out, ( with screen removed), bend and weld/ tack in sheet metal and grind back, then fill up imperfections and off to the spray
booth,
F*** the dodgy jobs off, they will just make rust re apear a year or so later...
do it once... not every few years
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 12:01 PM |
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just for a roady how about a sticker over it to hide it
or heaps of mud
or fiberglass it up
or mass bog it up n a bit of house paint red..
oh its a keeper?
yeah as they said do it properly..
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 01:47 PM |
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paint the car a rust colour, so they wont know the difference :bounce
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| posted on May 10th, 2006 at 02:01 PM |
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Rat it!... sand off all the paint so it rusts evenly!
But yeah... as the guys said... best to do it properly.... but if need be, just make it look pretty until it can be done good and proper with real
metal... and make sure you don't procrastinate and leave it another year or so.... it'll come back twice as hard to fix later on 
bodgy it up for rego, then after it passes, get straight onto saving pennies to have it fixed correctly by a reputable rust specialist or metalurgist.
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