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posted on May 24th, 2006 at 09:28 PM
Hi Pete,
There are many fine details in the rule book,
but the general idea is that the body needs to be kind of standard, but body kits and the like are OK, but have a look in the ANDRA rules for the
specifics.
In the USA there is a 2500cc capacity limit for the Volksies and a 1750lbs minimum weight, but here in Australia, there is no capacity
limit(yet)
You can run other types of engine but they incur a higher minimum weight.
From memory VW air cooled is 1750lbs, water cooled RWD is 1900 and FWD is 1650.
FWD is the only car that can run a tube chassis but they incur a weight penalty back up to 1750lbs.
So you can run a Subaru engine, but you would have to be 1900lbs minimum.
Oh, and most importantly, Normally Aspirated.
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posted on May 25th, 2006 at 10:33 AM
Ta
do you reckon they would have a nervous breakdown over a buggy body or would that just be treated as a bodykit? Afterall, my pan is standard.
And if they can allow this level of fibreglass on a FWD surely a buggy can't too much different. Personally I think it looks...:puke
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posted on May 26th, 2006 at 05:25 PM
ALL MOTOR – DYO - CLASS REGULATIONS
Class Designations: AM preceded by car number.
The All Motor category is designed for full-bodied cars using original floor-pan and no power adders.
Minimum Weights:
FWD 4-cylinder: 1,650 pounds; RWD, VW air-cooled, stock “Type I” case only: 1,750 pounds; RWD or 4WD 4-cylinder/2-rotor: 1,950 pounds.
Full tube chassis or back half with non-OEM strut mounts/strut tower permitted in FWD only - add 75 pounds; sequential, clutch-less, V-gate or non-OEM
aftermarket transmissions, add 200 pounds. All weights include driver, verified after the run.
CLASS REQUIREMENTS
1. Engine
1.1 Engine: 4 cylinder or 2 rotor engine only; all others prohibited. Ammended rules allow for up to 4.1 litre 6 cylinder motor as long as it is
Overhead Cam. Power adders prohibited. Stepped-deck block maximum 3/4-inch (19mm) permitted. Billet blocks prohibited. Use of vacuum pump for
evacuation of crankcase pressure permitted. Dry-sump permitted. All engine block and cylinder head castings must be, or have been, available in a
production car or truck from a recognised OEM assembly line with a minimum production run of 5000 units, unless otherwise approved by ANDRA.
1.2 Exhaust: Open exhaust permitted, except where prohibited by track rules.
1.3 Fuel: Restricted to alcohol or petrol only. Refer ANDRA General Regulations 1.6 and 1.7.
1.4 Fuel System: See General Regulations 1.8.
1.5 Liquid Overflow: See General Regulations 1.9.
1.6 Nitrous Oxide: Prohibited.
1.7 Supercharger, Turbocharger: Prohibited.
2. Driveline
2.1 Driveline: Aftermarket or non-OEM transmissions permitted; see weight breaks. Automated, timer-type, pneumatic, electric, electronic, hydraulic,
etc. shifting mechanism prohibited; each individual shift must be a function of the driver and controlled manually. (Driver must pull the lever.)
Rear-end swap permitted, but must use original mounting points and suspension. Vehicles running 10.99 or quicker with independent rear suspension
using upper and lower (both) control arms may retain swing-axle assembly regardless of weight or ET. Must have 360-degree, minimum 1-inch (25mm) wide
by 1/4 inch (6mm) thick axle-retention loop on each axle.
2.2.1 Flywheel Shield: All manual-transmission-equipped RWD cars running 10.99 or quicker must have a flywheel shield labeled as meeting minimum SFI
Spec 6.1 or 9.1 or a fabricated shield made of 1/4-inch (6mm) thick steel, surrounding the bell housing 360 degrees, extending 1 inch (25mm) forward
and 1 inch (25mm) rearward of the rotating clutch assembly. Shield must be securely attached to frame or frame structure, may be multi-piece. All FWD
or transverse-mounted applications using a clutch and running quicker than 10.99 must be equipped with a flywheel shield made of 1/4-inch (6mm)
minimum-thickness steel plate. In lieu of steel plate, an SFI Spec 4.1 will be accepted if blanket adequately covers bell housing. Shield must
surround the bell housing completely except for area of flywheel shield adjacent to differential and axle shaft. Shield may be multi-piece, with
pieces bolted together using minimum 3/8-inch (10mm)-diameter Grade 5 or M10 class 8.8 bolts; may be attached to engine and/or bell housing. See
General Regulations 2.6.
2.2.2 Automatic Transmission: See General Regulations 2.2.
2.3 Rear End: Rear-end swap permitted, but must use original mounting points and suspension. See General Regulations 2.7.
3. Brakes & Suspension
3.1 Brakes: Four-wheel hydraulic brakes mandatory. See General Regulations 3.1.
3.2 Steering: See General Regulations 3.3.
3.3 Suspension: OEM suspension mounting points mandatory. Traction devices permitted provided stock mounting points are retained. One working shock
absorber per wheel mandatory. See General Regulations 3.4.
3.4 Suspension, Front: Aftermarket or fabricated lower control arms permitted, but must use original mounting points.
3.5 Suspension, Rear: FWD with factory independent rear suspension may replace with straight axle suspension, but must retain original mounting
points. Strut must mount to original upper mounting point. RWD vehicles must use original mounting points and suspension. Rear-end swaps permitted,
but must use OEM mounting points.
3.6 Wheelie Bars: Permitted. Maximum length 65 inches (1650mm) from rear bumper. May be adjustable, but must be fixed during run. Any movement or
adjustment during run prohibited. Pneumatics, hydraulics, electronics, etc. prohibited. Wheelie-bar wheels must spin free at the starting line. Any
preload prohibited.
4. Frame
4.1 Ballast: Permitted. See General Regulations 4.2.
4.2 Chassis, All cars: FWD must retain FWD configuration; rear-drive conversions prohibited. Bracing of front suspension towers to roll cage
permitted. Otherwise no bracing may be added forward of firewall. Excessive lightening of uni-body structure (i.e., drilling of holes, etc.)
prohibited. See General Regulations 4.3, 4.7.
4.2.1 Chassis, FWD: Engine must be located in original location and configuration for body used. Conversion from transverse to longitudinal engine
orientation prohibited. If engine is relocated weight penalty for full tube chassis is assigned. Wheel tubs, back halfs, tube chassis etc. permitted;
however, full-tube chassis or back half with non-OEM strut mounts/strut tower assemblies incurs weight penalty. (See minimum weights at beginning of
section, and also Floor, FWD under Body). Back half is considered from B-pillar or main roll-cage hoop, whichever is further rearward. Refer Section
7.3.1.
4.2.2 Chassis, RWD or 4WD: Engine relocation prohibited. OEM chassis, with complete OEM floor-pan and firewall minus 6 square feet for transmission
removal, mandatory. Back half is considered from B-pillar or main roll cage hoop, whichever is further rearward. Back half and/ or non-OEM suspension
mounting points prohibited.
4.3 Ground Clearance: Minimum 3 inches (75mm) from front of car to 12 inches (305mm) behind centerline of front axle, 2 inches (50mm) for remainder of
car (except for exhaust more than 12 inches (305mm) behind centerline of front axle).
4.4 Parachute: See General Regulations 4.6.
4.5 Roll Cage: Permitted. See General Regulations 4.7.
4.6 Wheelbase: Must retain original wheelbase for body used, plus or minus 1 inch (25mm). Maximum wheelbase variation from left to right is 1 inch
(25mm).
5. Tyres & Wheels
5.1 Tyres: Must be DOT or racing slicks with a maximum width of 10.5 inches (268mm) and maximum height of 28 inches (710mm). Cars quicker than 12.50
(1/4 mile) using independent front suspension and cross ply rear tyres are not permitted to use radial from tyres.
5.2 Wheels: Must be automotive-type wheels suitable for street or racing use. Minimum wheel size 13 inches (330mm) unless originally equipped with
smaller wheels and vehicle is equipped with original engine. Wheel studs must be threaded into hex portion of lug nut a distance at least equal to the
diameter of the stud. See General Regulations 5.3.
6. Interior
6.1 Interior: Upholstery, headliners, carpets, dashboard, etc. optional. Must be equipped with one seat minimum for driver, properly installed. Holes,
slots, or other openings in floor and/or firewall prohibited. See General Regulations 6.1.
7. Body
7.1 Body: Any 4 cylinder or rotary automobile, light truck or 4WD permitted. Mild Customizing permitted, but must retain full-bodied appearance and
silhouette, with minimum 2 functional doors. Convertible permitted, but must run with top up. Doors must open and close from inside and outside. Glass
may be replaced with Lexan or other shatterproof material, minimum thickness 1/8-inch (3mm). Side windows need not be operative, but must be in fully
closed position for run. Lightweight body panels permitted. Body must retain a finished appearance, with full bonnet, guards and boot (or fascia
kits), and paint. Air intake tube may not be routed outside of body, hood scoop permitted. Otherwise, only factory air-inlet openings permitted.
7.2 Firewall: OEM firewall mandatory on RWD and 4WD. Replacement steel firewall permitted on FWD, but incurs full tube chassis weight penalty. See
General Regulations 7.4.
7.3.1 Floor, FWD: Horizontal portion(s) of floor-pan may be removed from behind B-pillar or roll-cage main hoop attachment points (whichever is
farther rearward) to rear of car. Entire shock/strut tower structure must be retained. Portion of floor removed must be replaced with aluminum or
steel, completely sealed. Complete, unaltered, OEM floor-pan from B-pillar or roll-cage main hoop attachment points (whichever is farther rearward) to
front of car mandatory. Excessive lightening of uni-body structure, i.e. drilling of holes, etc., prohibited.
7.3.2 Floor, RWD: OEM floor-pan, front to rear, minus 6 square feet for transmission removal, mandatory.
7.4 Street Equipment: Two headlights and taillights must be present or painted on; need not be operational except for one working taillight.
8. Electrical
8.1 Batteries: Batteries must be securely mounted; may not be located in driver compartment unless sealed off per General Regulations. See General
Regulations 8.1.
8.2 Ignition: Two steps, rev limiters, etc. permitted. See General Regulations 8.2, 8.3.
9. Support Group
9.1 Computer: Vehicle Management System’s prohibited. Electronic fuel Injection permitted. Refer General Regulations9.2.
9.2 Data Recorder: Permitted. Wheel-speed sensors of any type on any wheel, including wheelie-bar wheel(s), prohibited. See General Regulations
9.3.
9.3 Fire Extinguisher System: Permitted; must be securely mounted. See General Regulations 9.4.
9.4 Tow Vehicles: Only permitted where use of a parachute is required, however, ANDRA may, at random intervals, require race vehicle to return to
scales under its own power. See General Regulations 9.9.
9.5 Warm-Ups: See General Regulations 9.10.
10. Driver
10.1 Credentials: All drivers must have an ANDRA competition Licence. ANDRA Unlimited Licence mandatory for driver of any car running 10.99 or
quicker. See Section 1 - Credentials.
10.2 Driver Restraint System: See General Regulations 10.11.
10.3 Helmet: See General Regulations 10.8.
10.4 Neck Collar: See General Regulations 10.10.
10.5 Protective Clothing: See General Regulations 10.10.
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posted on May 26th, 2006 at 07:12 PM
who is that mystery man...
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posted on May 26th, 2006 at 07:51 PM
Hey Dave,
Name is Chuck. I built the ALLMTR Honda Civic that ran 12.8 three years ago and then sold the rolling shell to the guys in Qld.
I'm helping a mate build an all motor VW but it will be rotar powered :alien
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posted on May 26th, 2006 at 07:59 PM
Meh...
I love two V's (Or three)...
My VW's
My V8's
My Veronika (One of my VW's)
Honda starts with a H...
-Staggers.
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posted on May 26th, 2006 at 09:24 PM
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Hey Dave,
Name is Chuck. I built the ALLMTR Honda Civic that ran 12.8 three years ago and then sold the rolling shell to the guys in Qld.
I'm helping a mate build an all motor VW but it will be rotar powered :alien
wow, that'll be interesting. should put the cat among the pigeons. how close to finishing it are you?
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posted on June 7th, 2006 at 08:16 PM
Would like to see some progress photos of that rotor powered bug.
What tranny do you plan to use?
1950lbs....would want to be a good one!
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posted on June 8th, 2006 at 12:20 AM
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Meh...
I love two V's (Or three)...
My VW's
My V8's
My Veronika (One of my VW's)
Honda starts with a H...
-Staggers.
V-tec :P
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posted on June 8th, 2006 at 12:24 AM
stick to Billy Carts Rev.
Loves a lolcat
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posted on June 8th, 2006 at 10:17 AM
oi! who are you to talk, you ain't even got the guts to subie your split you old woman!
