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 Fireball xl5
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 05:51 PM |
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My rear wheels dont seem to be the same width!!
was looking at lowering my squareback, but then noticed that the drivers side rear will foul the wheel arch, where as the near side has about an inch
of clearance. The wheel are banded steels and its the first time I have ever had them on a car. Is it common for them to be so different?
A quick look, looked like one may have a bigger offest than the other, so are they just shonky wheels?
Mind you the chap I bought the car off didnt even realise they were wider then standard....
Is there a check that I can do to make sure the back of the car is straight?
They dont have any obvious toe in, and the wheels seem straight
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 06:06 PM |
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swap them and see if the offset changes to the other side.
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:05 PM |
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Smart Cookie... I would have bought a new set of rims, preferably Flat Four Fuchs copies.
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Fireball xl5
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:22 PM |
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Just tried to swap wheels around, using the vw jack, which wont actually jack up the car high enough to get the fecking wheel off!!
Will go and buy a proper jack and try again soon. That said has anyone got a set of whhels for sale?
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:25 PM |
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That said has anyone got a set of whhels for sale?
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people will need to know if 4 stud or wide five
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:27 PM |
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what are you after i might be able to help as i have a set of globes, hotwires and possibly a set of stocks as well
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:31 PM |
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anything that will fit without fouling the guards!, do any of the wheels have tyres?
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:32 PM |
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oh and its a 4 stud 69
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:37 PM |
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they all have tires on them at the moment, 215s on the globes and im not sure whats on the hotwires as im not sure which set i was left with after i
sold 1 set but could check with the old man in a couple of days or you could ring him direct on 0265523190 during work hours. he should be coming to
sydney in a couple of weekends if not im heading up there in two weeks
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:38 PM |
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they are all 4 stud as well
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:39 PM |
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sounds good, how much do you want?
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 07:47 PM |
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type 3s had wider rims than beetles....
they get mixed up easily as they just look the same....
One could be a beetle rim and one a type 3 rim....
or they could be different as someone may have had them
widened differently for the front & rear of car,
and they have been mixed up.....
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 08:17 PM |
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Type 3s had thinner rims than beetle ,
Remove the hub caps look between the bolts there should be stamping indicating the width, is you car swing axle or IRS??
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 08:26 PM |
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the wheels say they were 4" to begin with but now measure about 7" so were tey beetle wheels?
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 08:32 PM |
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Widest standard wheel for veedubs were 5.5 may be 6in.
Bloody hard to lower with that width wheel also depends on off set , what about the rims on the front may be u have 2 fats and 2 thins. U could remove
wheel and measure offsets, u will need plank of wood and a ruler.
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 08:33 PM |
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Post a pic of car.
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 08:44 PM |
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would do but camera broke today! it has thinner on front, just spoken to previous owner and he has got another widened as a spare, so this could be
the matching one for one of the rears, or maybe not!
Think the wheels are a bit bodgey to say the least, will try and get a second hand set of mags to keep the car rolling (and lower) and go from there.
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 09:09 PM |
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Type 3s always had wider rims than beetles....
they had 4 1/2 J x 15 inch rims
and the tyre size was 165 x 15...
On Beetles it was 155 x 15 tyres...
and they had 4 J x 15 inch rims
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 09:20 PM |
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about 72 73 i think it was they widend them beetle ones to 4 1/2"
my 74 has 4.5"
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 09:21 PM |
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type 3's have different offset too.
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 09:30 PM |
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oh yeah the reason that wheels off the car
it got a bit of a shudder happening
hmmm tyre bent much? LOL
tyre has the hugest warp in it
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 09:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
Type 3s always had wider rims than beetles....
they had 4 1/2 J x 15 inch rims
and the tyre size was 165 x 15...
On Beetles it was 155 x 15 tyres...
and they had 4 J x 15 inch rims
Lee
Later bugs had 4 .5 inch rims also
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VW bodies are often off centre on the chassis, which can cause tyre fouling.
If your car is a swing axle dont be deceived by the wheel tuck whens its jacked up.
Steve
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| posted on June 12th, 2006 at 10:03 PM |
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Unfortunatley its a IRS, Do any of you chaps live anywhere near Newtown?
And do you have a trolley jack I could come over and use to try and solve this problem once and for all?
I know its abit rude but Cant really afford to buy a trolley jack (as just boght the car, rego etc, etc) and the wheel thing is really bugging me.
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| posted on June 13th, 2006 at 06:59 PM |
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Barls you have u2u.
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about 72 73 i think it was they widened the beetle ones to 4 1/2"
my 74 has 4.5"
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Yes DUB74L,
You are correct..
None of MY Books go that far....
but I do remember they did get wider or they used type 3 rims on the beetles... as all the later ones in the USA have the 4 1/2" size....
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| posted on June 13th, 2006 at 07:51 PM |
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they are also only 14" rims, did beetles come with 14's?
What are my wheels from?
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| posted on June 13th, 2006 at 08:19 PM |
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14" rims where never factory
they'd be something someone made up in the 80's when 14's were cool
Joel
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| posted on June 13th, 2006 at 09:35 PM |
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Ahh bugger it, Guess its how you learn!
So the wheels are still beetle centers? Or some other VW?
They still have the fitting for the VW crome Hubcaps
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| posted on June 13th, 2006 at 10:54 PM |
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yeah they're just vw center hubs fitted to 14" wider rims from some mainstream car
there always easy to pick as to make a 15" vw hub fit the 14" rim they need to be cut down and the cuts are made half way through the cooling slots
on 4 stud rims
if u look closely btwn the wheel studs on 4 stud rims u'll see a few markings if theyre not buried under layers of paint.
one is the size eg 4 1/2Jx15 the other is month and year of manufacture and my 74 rims also have the offset ET41 on them
hth
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| posted on June 14th, 2006 at 12:46 PM |
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yeah the centers are beetle, not type 3.
Its just one of the things I really should have picked up on when I first looked at the car. Like I said its just a big learning curve jumping from
Mini's to aircooled VW's!
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