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 karmen
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 10:02 PM |
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gearboxes
anyone have a surefireway to tell irs box types apart
if it has 113 is it a t3 been told they interchange only the gearselector rod nut ids underneath
what is the diff between 1300 and 1600 g/boxes ie numbers and suitability.
Kombi boxes id for 1600 as they may have an 1800 flywheel!
thanx all
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 10:03 PM |
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t3 interchange with beetle (1600)
price range for used and recoed ones is also my interest
Karmen
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 10:05 PM |
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if ya can wait till tomorrow... if i'm free will bring down the idiots guide and have a looksie for ya 
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 11:36 PM |
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here's what little i know about gearboxes...
well, price wise anyway
To reco one, and take motor etc out and replace is about $1k approx. (at mechanics)
To fit one u already have is about $250
To purchase one privately, with condition unknown is about $100
Known to be good is about $150
Recoed is about $200-300 (depending on whether or not u trust person who does it)
NEW is approx $400
These are things i've heard and been quoted. It kinda depends on who ur talking to, and to an extent whether or not their taking pity on u. In my
case, some wonderful avd members did and rescued me from a very big bill.
As for the size etc...no idea how u tell them all apart...
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 08:18 AM |
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would be right for swingers
but I R S is a bit later and more demand now
found one with 113 on it and need to know if actually a type 3 for a fussy buyer!!!
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 08:53 AM |
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does it have the holes for the banana mounts in the bellhousing plugged? If so, it's a Type 3 box
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 09:06 AM |
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hmm... interesting. QUOTE:
"113 is the Deluxe Sedan (Export) and can arrive with a 1200, 1300 or 1500 engine."
Sounds like a beetle to me. Deluxe beetle , even putting "VW 113" (cause
113 is an actual model number, which starts off EVERY part number), putting it in google images brings up model 113 Deluxe beetles.
So its a bug bit, according to idiots guide.
311 is the TYPE 3 part ID number  lol
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 06:03 PM |
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Try here
http://www.midsouthvw.com/TechTips/tech_tip_TransaxleCode.htm
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 06:09 PM |
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i had my single side plate Lbug box rebuilt for $450
but i removed it and delivered it and all my syncros were good
and that was 3 years ago
Joel
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 08:31 PM |
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aha Joel
single side plate is that good box ??
74L orig then
taa
Karmen
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58 & 62 beetle parting. 74 panel parting
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 11:39 PM |
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single side plate is the best box to use for building a strong T1 box. has the 3.88 final drive to.
Anthony
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 06:52 AM |
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ive noticed that people will ask too much for gearboxes and as a result they dont sell. especially when you hear stories of those down south going to
"pick and pay" and getting good boxes for $50 etc....
also whether it be debated or not, i was of the opinion the late swing axle box from a 1300tp was pretty strong neigh the strongest...
nick
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 08:42 AM |
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yes, Nick but anyone North of Sunny Coast has time and transport /distance costs against them...not only in g/boxes..
we have to factor all that in esp on e-bay bids etc.
Anthony has the id nr of a box or pert nr any indication of the retio in them ?
can post u a pic or 2
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58 & 62 beetle parting. 74 panel parting
63 Baja 80 GLD parting
58 donor split 11 window 63 Splitty sgle cab /son's
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 08:49 AM |
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I scored two type 3 squareback SSC gearboxes for $50 each, both in excellent condition. Then i went to Volksworld and they had an L bug box covered
in mud and crap, condition unknown and they wanted $400 for it, i said thanks but no thanks.
This is my Volkswagen, there are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me my Volkswagen is useless, without my Volkswagen, I am useless.
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 09:06 AM |
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Transaxle codes type 1-3
AA 1200 4.375
AB 1300 4.375
AC 1500 4.125
AD 1200 4.375
AE 1300 4.375
AF 1500 4.125
AG 1200 4.375
AH 1500 4.125
1600 4.125
AK 1500 3.875
1600 3.875
AL 1500 3.875
1600 3.875
AM 1300 4.375
AN 1600 3.875
AO 1600 3.875
AP 1300 4.375
AQ 1600 4.125
AR 1600 3.875
AS 1600 3.875
AT 1600 3.875
AU 1600 3.875
BA 1300/1500 4.375
BC 1300/1500 4.375
BE 1600 4.125
BF 1600 4.125
BG 1300 4.125
BH 1300 4.125
BJ 1300 4.375
BK 1300 4.375
DA 1500/1600 4.125
DB 1500/1600 4.125
DC 1500/1600 4.125
DD 1500/1600 4.125
There you go kids. Cheers Damo.
[ Edited on 21-7-2006 by 66deluxe ]
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 09:18 AM |
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I dicsussed this topic with Leon.
The prices I feel are too high, but are driven there due to
the costs or labour and parts to do a correct rebuild.
Leon said a swingaxle is an 8 hour job to do correctly,
and at 60 to 100 per hour depending on where you live, you get the picture.
Then you have all the bearings and other parts that are worn out in a 30 or 40 year old box.
One of the pinion bearings is over $250 !
The swingaxle box in the clunker that I bought cost the former owner $1100 from Leons
to do a full stock rebuild with new bearings an synchros, and to change in the
crownwheel and pinion ratio.
I have done a couple of boxes for myself and some friends, and I would say there is about 10 hours work in there.
And that doesn't count the time looking for odd parts that need replacing, that you can no longer buy.
Late IRS is a faster job, but always needs the reverse gear replaced and a new pinion nut...more dollars!
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 07:10 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by dangerous
I have done a couple of boxes for myself and some friends, and I would say there is about 10 hours work in there.
And that doesn't count the time looking for odd parts that need replacing, that you can no longer buy.
Late IRS is a faster job, but always needs the reverse gear replaced and a new pinion nut...more dollars!
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Can You tell Me why a new reverse is needed, plus the pinion nut.....
I'm guessing a pinion Nut is a special part.....
Does the pinion nut come loose or just need replacing??
Lee
When You see a gearbox either covered in oil or grease and mud.....
You wonder whether it is any good at all....
but You can't tell... thats the problem....
OK on the 10 hours to do a gearbox.....
Too complicated for Me....
I'd have too many bits left over... lol.....
I keep forgetting that its not 1970 any more......lol...
and gearboxes have done a million miles since then....
Lee...
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| posted on July 23rd, 2006 at 07:13 PM |
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so whats AH 3648824 ?the box nr??
then there is a 33 on its own near the side plate 113 nr but none of the nrs on the list u gave!!
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| posted on July 23rd, 2006 at 07:41 PM |
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on the topic, does anyone know a good place to get a type 3 box rebuilt in tasmania?
cheers, jonno
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