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 tayloredvw
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| posted on January 7th, 2007 at 09:44 AM |
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can you still get manx buggies registered?
hey my dads thinking about buying a buggy that has not been registered before and we were just wondering how hard and whats involved in getting it
through mains roads so it can be registered. We live in qld also.
Thanks for anyones help.
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| posted on January 7th, 2007 at 11:22 AM |
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Save your money and find one that has previous rego or is regoed.
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"Do I wish to send them to you again, nope, no interest can't be bothered really, to much hassle for little or no return."
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| posted on January 8th, 2007 at 10:17 AM |
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This is for SWB (MAnx), LWB buggies are easier to rego. New SWB buggies go under an ICV (individualy constructeded vehicle) which would drain most
peoples budget very rapidly.
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| posted on January 8th, 2007 at 02:15 PM |
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SWB buggies are damn near impossible to get registered. They are considered ICV which means they need to meet nearly all the current ADRs. Including
post 2003 emmissions.
If the body is any good a few people may be interested as there are a few registered buggies around with buggered bodies.
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| posted on January 9th, 2007 at 04:38 PM |
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from what i'm lead to believe if you just run lpg this exceeds the adrs for emissions.
and the easiest way to get the other adrs is strip a sedan and put all the required parts into your buggy.
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| posted on January 9th, 2007 at 05:10 PM |
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You make it sound so easy!
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| posted on January 10th, 2007 at 08:03 PM |
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guys can build the cobra replicas, and the westfield(i think) racers and get them registered so you should be able to build the buggy of your
dreams.
as i think you will find you are not limited to what engine type/size/horsepower you use or what sort of tyre or even type of suspension. your dreams
could be a reality
i think the main hurdle you must jump is the lane change test. 100km/hr change lanes then change back again within a distance and without hitting the
markers.
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| posted on January 10th, 2007 at 08:16 PM |
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I think the WALLET is the biggest hurdle.You are right though....anything can be registered if it meets the required ADR's but it will cost you big
$$$$$
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| posted on January 10th, 2007 at 09:33 PM |
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ok so im getting the vibe that its not worth it, but why?
Has anyone recently tried or know what the ADRs requir that make it so difficult or expensive?
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| posted on January 11th, 2007 at 08:27 AM |
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As the others have already said, it's the engine emissions that is the problem. If the car runs solely on LPG then you don't have to meet the
emissions, but running a buggy on LPG isn't easy either.
The westfields meet the emissions with the standard 4AGE engine set-up, that has a pre-approved ECU map. This ECU map has been tested and deemed to
comply, so they can use it on all their cars. The testing is quite expensive, so you would not want to have it done just for your buggy. You would
need to EFI the VW motor at the very least. The easy option is to use a current generation suby motor that already meets the emissions.
The department of transport is also very slow. Ask custom offroad, they do rebodied vehicles and ICV's and know how slow QT are.
You need to meet all the current ADR's. Have a look on the DOTAR's website to see what is involved. You even need silly things like seat-belt
warning lights.
Finally you need a full engineering report done on the vehicle to show that everything complies and all the ADR's are met. This costs money too.
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| posted on January 16th, 2007 at 12:00 PM |
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just got my shorty engineered and blue slipped last week. No probs at all. Even had to go thru the pitts for engine ID check and all went fine. They
even commented that you don`t see many of them anymore.
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| posted on January 16th, 2007 at 12:38 PM |
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It's much more difficult in QLD.
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| posted on January 16th, 2007 at 07:11 PM |
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just got my shorty engineered and blue slipped last week. No probs at all. Even had to go thru the pitts for engine ID check and all went fine. They
even commented that you don`t see many of them anymore.
Could I please have your Engineers Ph No please ?
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| posted on January 16th, 2007 at 07:14 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by MR930
just got my shorty engineered and blue slipped last week. No probs at all. Even had to go thru the pitts for engine ID check and all went fine. They
even commented that you don`t see many of them anymore.
Could I please have your Engineers Ph No please ?
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you can u2u me the number as well, if you don't mind
thanx
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| posted on January 29th, 2007 at 09:22 PM |
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I have a manx for sale in brisbane with roadworthy and rego. look on carsales.com.au for info & pics. The price is neg.
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| posted on January 29th, 2007 at 09:56 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by dumone
| Quote: | Originally
posted by MR930
just got my shorty engineered and blue slipped last week. No probs at all. Even had to go thru the pitts for engine ID check and all went fine. They
even commented that you don`t see many of them anymore.
Could I please have your Engineers Ph No please ?
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you can u2u me the number as well, if you don't mind
thanx
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No response - either bullshi**ing or doesn't want to share!
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on January 30th, 2007 at 03:05 PM |
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i just got ANOTHER one of my buggies (gen manx) rego'd in qld the chassis no is from (a) 67 easy as.......i just went and got a roadworthy for it took that to main roads and whala plates in the hand and a sticker
in the post they were amazed that those beetle's even came in a soft top version but i expained that there were quite rare:P and that she should
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| posted on February 22nd, 2007 at 07:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by VWCOOL
| Quote: | Originally
posted by dumone
| Quote: | Originally
posted by MR930
just got my shorty engineered and blue slipped last week. No probs at all. Even had to go thru the pitts for engine ID check and all went fine. They
even commented that you don`t see many of them anymore.
Could I please have your Engineers Ph No please ?
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you can u2u me the number as well, if you don't mind
thanx
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No response - either bullshi**ing or doesn't want to share!
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Not sure on everyone else but I don`t have time to post bull*^*t remarks on what I have or haven`t done.
Have been on hols for a few weeks and yes it is regoed and engineered. Easy to do, any engineer will prob do it for you just depends on how much work
you want to do.!!
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| posted on February 22nd, 2007 at 08:58 PM |
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Can I please have your Engineers number? I have sent u a u2u. Thanks
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| posted on May 25th, 2008 at 01:53 AM |
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Can someone confirm for me if a shortened chassis can be completed under the chassis mod section of DOTARS instead of ICV? Reason is that if you use
all VW running gear, add bar work and only change the chassis then I have been told it will pass as SWB, rebodied vehicle. Are the main roads people
correct here? Supposedly I spoke to a person in the approvals deparment that deals with engineers and mods.
What my garage isn't messy........Well chaos is a form of order isn't it?
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| posted on June 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 AM |
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Ive spoken to an engineer about this last week for passing in NSW. Any new swb in NSW will be a modified production vehicle. If the chassis is 1970
or earlier then its pre ADR's and the chassis only needs to meet safety standards which the engineer will advise you on. If you get the engineers
certificate then a shortened chassis is OK. The body will need to meet current ADRs in regards to padded dash, inertia seatbelts, windscreen
demister, eye level brake light etc.
The engineer was very helpfull - he's going to supply drawings on cutting and strenghtening the pan and basically said, if you do it my way
(shortening the chassis) I'll pass it.
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| posted on June 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by rivmasta
Ive spoken to an engineer about this last week for passing in NSW. Any new swb in NSW will be a modified production vehicle. If the chassis is 1970
or earlier then its pre ADR's and the chassis only needs to meet safety standards which the engineer will advise you on. If you get the engineers
certificate then a shortened chassis is OK. The body will need to meet current ADRs in regards to padded dash, inertia seatbelts, windscreen
demister, eye level brake light etc.
The engineer was very helpfull - he's going to supply drawings on cutting and strenghtening the pan and basically said, if you do it my way
(shortening the chassis) I'll pass it.
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hey that's good news because I am sure the previous regs required any 'shortened' chassis be classified as a brand-new vehicle (current ADRS) but
longer wheelbases (eg limos) could be passed as Modified Production.
Does the 'update' body requiremenst apply to only an ADR car, or pre-71 as well?
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| posted on June 3rd, 2008 at 12:54 PM |
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As far as I know and understand any new buggy being registered whether its long or short, pre 71 or not, the body has to comply to current ADRs.
Better off asking an engineer though!
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| posted on June 19th, 2008 at 07:41 PM |
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I just got my (shortened) buggy engineeered and registered.
Yes, modified production was the only way it would go through. Basically a rebodied car with a modified chassis. several engineers were prepared to
look at it, but most flat out refused. There seems to be plenty of different opinions on why they are/ are not legal.
Had to pass a torsional rigidity test, lane change test etc. For emmisions etc he only wanted 1970 standard( almost none)
I doubt any standard pan would ever pass the rigidity test- any easy way for them to knock you back. Only the tunnel is original in mine and they
still didn't make it easy (all new floor from heavy checkerplate, 75 x 50 thickwall for the perimiter, cro moly 6 point cage bolted to that, cro moly
intrusion bars, firewall bars, bracing and tie bars to the front beam!)
Mine ended up weighing in at 620kg...so he wouldn't pass subaru power at this stage.
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