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| posted on March 30th, 2010 at 03:42 PM |
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yeh sorry guys
in the rush for compact attack
forgot to post
i'll put up the sheet later
but we got 225rwhp @ 7300 rpm
its ok but brad & i think we've still got more in it
hey dangerous we seem to be getting exhaust temps ok
but head temps seem to get really high quickly for some reason
(thought on methanol we'd run cooler)
& it seems to be hunting on idle
any thoughts????
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| posted on March 30th, 2010 at 07:52 PM |
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Wow!
That is more power than I have!
Roller cams generally get a bit of a hunt at idle,
but that can also be from the poor atomisation that methanol sized nozzles have,
(unless you use two smaller ones in each port).
Yes even with EFI.
I noticed my idle changed with the short exhaust I use too.
Head temps should be lower than with petrol based fuels,
but when you make power you also make heat.
Excessive ignition advance will help heads run hotter,
so you can back that off.(26 to 28 maximum!!)
Exhaust temps will be higher, but mean nothing really,
since you should tune for max power, while using lambda and exh temp purely as tools.
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| posted on March 30th, 2010 at 10:52 PM |
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cheer's dave.
any help is always much appreciated.
when the fat controller finally put's up the graph you will see i think off memory a 230hp run or there about's but as soon as the temps come up
220ish is were it always goes back to.
we had it idleing nice last week keeping the heads cool with heaps of fuel,but as you had mentioned i think he has put to much timming it her.
it is also a carby cam not efi lobe centre's wise,i don't know if it makes much of a difference.but i am going to pull the manifolds of just to have
a sticky beak to see if there is maybe a small air leak.
what lambda reading's you been chasing davel.
and the funny thing is we had it on fuel last week with cooler head temp's than we currently have,so something is be amiss at the moment.
alway's something to kepp us guessing.
cya
and it's only a figure until the mph comes along to match.
p.s.the car came in @ 1410 pounds with driver.still got some more to come out of her yet but no real reason to go chasing all the weight yet.
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| posted on March 31st, 2010 at 05:19 AM |
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Holy crap that IS light!!
I was originally aiming for 0.87 lambda,
but it torched a plug at "that",
and was down on power with the previous pill.(assuing rich!)
Went richer and it made max power with 0.82.
So in my case 0.87 was lean.
Many reasons for this, but prob the poor atomisation is what causes the bogus lambda numbers.
But remember to use lambda and exh-temp as a "tool",
and don't rely on anything being gospel.
If those power numbers are correct that will be faster than all of us!!
That is 365 lbs lighter than my car.
My guess is that Pageys car is about the same mass as yours
now that he has removed the dry sump
and has a mag case instead of the Scat case.
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| posted on March 31st, 2010 at 08:22 AM |
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If those power numbers are correct that will be faster than all of us!!
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Only if he can make it to the end of the track still with those numbers. 
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| posted on March 31st, 2010 at 02:13 PM |
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If those power numbers are correct that will be faster than all of us!!
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Only if he can make it to the end of the track still with those numbers.
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THANKS MATT FOR POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS
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| posted on March 31st, 2010 at 11:11 PM |
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only gota do it twice.lol
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| posted on April 2nd, 2010 at 12:10 PM |
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here's the sheet,dyno sheet.
i just finished putting it up on the dyno section ,man it look's so small in comparison to arron's 20b.prick.lol
when i get to a point were i am happy with the tune i will do some nos testing on the dyno,that should be cool.
but for now i just want to drive it and have fun.
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| posted on April 3rd, 2010 at 07:45 PM |
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I for one will put my hand up for a bum dyno test at Valla!! Sucks about the gremlins last weekend but I'm sure you'll get it sorted!!
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| posted on April 4th, 2010 at 07:55 AM |
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When i first read your post brenndan i thought you said you would put your hand up your bum for a dyno test at valla had to read it again to make sure
valla wasnt gunna turn into some weird "I can put weird things in my arse show".
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| posted on April 4th, 2010 at 03:00 PM |
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any vid of the new combo running?
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| posted on April 5th, 2010 at 07:59 PM |
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nah gota slack as helper.still waiting to get the compact attack vid for everyone,
after spending today tyding up the tune alitlle,i got the idle sorted and the head temp's are looking heaps better.
i will have to wait until next weekend to take a vid ,as it is alittle loud.
sounds heaps better.i will post a vid as soon as i can.
as for the hat outa my arse trick's i have a few of those,unfortunatly none on video.
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| posted on April 5th, 2010 at 08:15 PM |
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Great to chat today too dude!
Was interesting talking about the tune too. Think I'll be applying a little tuning by ear too. Didn't consider the AFR only displaying a burnt fuel
reading...
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| posted on April 5th, 2010 at 08:30 PM |
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great work guys!! the new front (i think it is new?!?) looks great - looking hard as nails and hopefully some hard core time slips to go with it.
all the best next time you guys hit the track!
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| posted on April 5th, 2010 at 11:14 PM |
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cheer's,yeh it's a new front.i didn't realy like it ,but it's growing on me alittle.
as for hitting the track soon i should be back out on the 16th if all goes well,as for the times to match it's looks,finger's crossed.
yeh alway's good to catch up reub's.
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| posted on April 12th, 2010 at 01:00 PM |
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OK GUYS UPDATE
SORTING OUT THE FINAL LITTLE BITS
& PIECES WITH BRAD THIS WEEK
THEN SHE HITS THE TRACK FRIDAY NIGHT
FINGERS CROSSED !!!!!,LETS HOPE ALL GOES WELL
HENRY HOW KEEN ARE YOU ?, A FELLOW VOLKSIE
ON FRIDAY NIGHT WOULD BE COOL
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| posted on April 12th, 2010 at 03:55 PM |
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Henry was out having a play on Sat I think...
Perhaps he will go out for more practise... or perhaps Craig?
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 10:35 AM |
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How did you go? 
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 11:01 AM |
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yeh....c'mon guys news please
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 11:17 AM |
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ok, we drove it back on the trailer,yipee.
head temp's now are alittle to cold for the tune,when it was dynoed the head temp's weret 390f,now 140,so she's running real fat.
the breather air filter is sitting right over the throttle bodies so with the cooler oil it is throwing bucket loads of oil down throttle bodie.no
biggy the engine still rev's ok,but need's to be sorted.
first run 11.8 115mph i think,i have the sheet's at home,i had a real good view of the x-mas tree,well the top of it anyway.as it disapeared from my
view any.so the car came up alittle,and i had to get of and back on it a few times.
i took of at about 6k.
second run i thought i would teach the gar a lesson buy reving it alittle higher.8k
11 something less mph as it when higher.got told buy the officials maybe we shouldn't try that one again.
so went to the pit's to cheak out were the suspension was at.the wheel alignment guy's had wound all the coil out of the rear shock's and
someone(me) hadn't checked what they had done. oop's.didn't take alot of tools so i gould only adjust the rear alittle.so last pass was a 3k take
of with the wheels up straight but still way to high ,so back of and on a few times.
all in all it was good fun but i realy need to get it back on a dyno so i can check mt fuel mixtures,and then sort out some suspesion stuff and back
out for some more fun,there should be some good pic's on the usual site,so get to it rueb,find and post buddy.
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 11:32 AM |
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Good work dude!!
Hope you can still make it to Gunnedah...don't want to be by myself out there,(hears the feint banjo noises).
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 01:50 PM |
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we will be there with bell's on .bell's on the tamborine to go with that banjo,deliverence here we come.i'll see if i can get some teeth knocked
out in a pub brawl before we go so we can fit in with the local's.lol.
all the issues are minor apart from the space shuttle style launch,we might need to make up some wheely bar's.
i have some footage on a mate's phone, i will try to post up later.
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 07:13 PM |
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Nice reach for the sky dude... (I'll let you post vid up..)
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 08:18 PM |
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here is the second run.
http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/westibug/?action=view¤t=16042...
and the 3rd
http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n1/westibug/?action=view¤t=16042...
enjoy.i did.
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 09:05 PM |
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Hows the body look, looks like it clipped the wall at wsid
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 10:58 PM |
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Blooooody hell !.........and there's a heap left yet to come as well
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| posted on April 17th, 2010 at 11:24 PM |
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the only thing i hit was the ground,real hard,my back was sore this morning.
the front end (pan )hit's the floor just after the glass front hit's,so there is a few war wounds on the front of the glass ,but it's behind the
no. plate so who cares.
that was the same as the first run only alittle higher.but no grazes .it's not as close as it look's.well i keep telling myself that anyhow.
it doesn't fell that bad until you come off the gas and hit the ground.when it goes straight i would like to stay on it to see what it does.i think
it should carry the wheel's for a bit.
it's heaps of fun,i can't wait to get it back out for some more testing.
there was heaps of photograper's takin pic's so i can't wait to see them.
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| posted on April 18th, 2010 at 07:39 AM |
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Awesome stuff mate....11secs, more to go and drove it onto the trailer. Gotta be happy with that.
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| posted on April 18th, 2010 at 08:45 AM |
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What were the times and speeds Westi?
Can't quite read the boards without my BINOCULARS.
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| posted on April 18th, 2010 at 01:14 PM |
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i only have 2 slip's
one is 1st run
1.702 60ft
7.639 1/8 with 95mph
115mph 11.84
wheels were up pretty high and going for the tree.
2nd was worse lift wise.
60ft 1.882
1/8 7.76 94.27mph
115mph
camera phones aren't the best way to get footage but they will have to do when the fat controller fogets the camera ,nice one stock.
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