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posted on October 20th, 2012 at 12:30 AM



stock took some pic's so lets see how long it take to get them up.
got heaps done ,and most of the car is ready to fab up,just a few more cut's here and there ,and time to start putting it back together.
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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 01:26 AM



fridays are awsome days,when you get to hang out with mates and work on ya car.
flowed the heads tonight,they did well i quess,dangerous would be the man to agree or not.
i cheqed it at 25-28 inches,
ohh and my pistons arrived,now just waiting on a cam and barrels.?anyone got any suggestions.
je make a really nice piston,i'll take some pic's.
6mm lift 140's
8mm lift 175-185
10mm 213 224
12mm 241 254
14mm 267 282
16mm 281-299
18mm 292-310.
i finished the block for getting the lifters ready and now am cleaning up for a dumby install to get the barrel lenght,geez i hope the engine fit's in the engine bay.
i'll post up some pic's tommorow.
i am starting to get the buzz again,so i will keep at it and put up some pic's tommorrow.




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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 05:45 AM



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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 07:21 AM



awesome numbers, for a 50 valve and 94 bore westi?



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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 09:58 AM



yeh 50 inlet,38 exh
and yes 94 bore.i was tempted to go bigger.but no need..
i'll take a pick of the chambers.nothing special.just a tidy up from how they came.
all the work was in the manifolds.

thanks dave.
really i wasn't sure .
new machine, so i wasn't 100 percent.
exhaust came up on average@ 64 % at low lift all the way up to 74% in the mid and back of to 65 % at top.


come on guy's barrels,cam ,and pushrods,where to buy?recommendations.




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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 10:43 AM



pauter for cam and barrels.
how much rpm do you plan?

I would go for something in the 270 to 280 at 50 area.
Unless you are going above 9000, I would stay below 280.
My current Surecam has 281/286 and makes less power until I get to 6000,
than all othes I have tried. Then kicks arse after that.

If I can keep the rpms above 6000 for the run it works well,
but in hind sight I would have prefered something mid 270's.

Problem is, more duration makes the profile softer on its ramp rates,
which helps with .800" lift.

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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 12:27 PM



thanks dave.

9000 would be nice,10000 would be great.
but lets face it i have never made power over 6500.well thats were it has always peaked or flat lined from there on.
my old one was a pauter.
i was trying work out something that was of the shelf .
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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 07:44 PM



What was your Pauter one?
Probably ample.




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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 06:57 AM



what heads westi? and are they your special fabbed manifolds? great numbers!



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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 07:26 AM



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Probably ample.


I think he is using the Strip Dominator/New Autocraft 910 casting Mac.

They normally only supply 1.5 rockers,
so with you current Pauter cam, it may not be the lift you want.




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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 07:43 AM



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but lets face it i have never made power over 6500.well thats were it has always peaked or flat lined from there on.




The rpm where peak power occurs is generally governed by a combination of the engine size and the point of minimum cross section.

Once you have these details it can be optimised (or fudged) slightly by the selection of the other components.(internal and external).

Here you can see with double peaks
how the cam and exhaust was going for an earlier peak and the engine combo wanted a higher.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/Scan-1.jpg

Then with a cam and exhaust to match the engine combo:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n216/dangerous_05/ScanDynoCDheadsNewExhandcamJan302012.jpg

There are some other factors with this deal, but this is how i see it.

The other factor worthy of comment is where to shift.
I know that with mine, it drops down below 6000rpm on the shift.
So you can see that even if I shift past the power peak at 8400,
it has less power than if I could afford to run it past 9000 :lol:
and have it drop into a higher HP-rpm.
(because its still 240 at the limiter but only 200 at 6000rpm.)




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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 11:43 AM



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yeh i get what you are saying.i used to do the same.
rev to 8 knowing in first the 7 in each other gear knowing thats were it needed to be for best power.
my curve were all ways like your last run's.
i don't know what to expect with the new set up,time will tell i supose.
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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 03:41 PM



Yeh Mac . Strip dominators.
With westi manifolds as per usuall , made them look standardish though cause I kept the cast bottoms and spent about 20 hours welding them up , the flow numbers are not that much more than my old 044's .but in saying that .there are heaps of different advantages of the new heads.more lift, better rockers.and the possibilty of more is all there.
They are defiantly better all the way through.with the cfm, but not the big changes I thought.but they had had well over 200 hrs of work on them.
And the o44 's were stretched to there limits.it was funny when I went to give them one more weld up to get them ready for the new engine . They let me know they had had enough.
Heated them up got ready to weld and bam. They started to crack up everywhere .I giggled and said good job !then put the old things under the bench for retirement .little 044's got me a best 8th mile mph of 99.12. Poor little things.




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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 06:11 PM



thanx mate, sounds like your onto a good thing with the new heads keep the info flowing as us bench racers need inspiration! thanx ps need pics of the manifolds!



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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 08:42 PM



Yeh no dramas,
I'll post up the engine build as I go.




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posted on November 21st, 2012 at 10:21 AM



This thread is useless without pics....

Kick the fat controller into gear and get some pics up!!

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posted on November 21st, 2012 at 12:41 PM



hahah.
very true.
i tell yah what,you tell me what u want pic's of,and i'll get asian(ladyboy) to do it.atleast then it will get done.




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posted on November 23rd, 2012 at 11:14 PM



trying to order bearing for the rods'.
anyone know the bearing part no. for pauter rod's.
2.1248 to 2 inch journal.
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posted on November 24th, 2012 at 05:16 AM



same as buick, rover and p76.
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Got some pics of the super dooper case? You running roller cam in this thing?



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posted on November 24th, 2012 at 09:02 AM



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