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 aussiebaja
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turbo baja
hey guys ,i was considering putting a turbo on my 1200 62 baja ,i dont want to get a bigger engine ,is there any links to the topic or any info is
apreciated ,,,,thanx
i can make all my own mounts manifolds and pipework ,so thats not a worry
theres a lot of big mountains up here were i live ,so its mainly for a bit of help on the ranges ,and a little bit of fun off road
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| posted on May 24th, 2007 at 05:04 PM |
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a 1500/1600 is cheaper than a turbo setup. it will also last longer.
sorry to rain on your parade, but i figure you want the truth.
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| posted on May 24th, 2007 at 05:53 PM |
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Prolly a cheaper way is go to say a 1641 but use the single port heads with say a single 40mm weber. Done this a lot and they will get down and pull
and very low rpm. not a big revver but offroad you don't really want that.
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| posted on May 24th, 2007 at 06:11 PM |
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come on guys ,i can buy and rebuild a secondhand turbo and fit it myself and pipework and manifolds for half the price of a decent 1600 engine ,what
would be a good size for a standard 1200 ,please anyone
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| posted on May 24th, 2007 at 06:17 PM |
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I've got a T2 off a nissan pulsar on the TAT turbo. You wouldn't want to go any bigger than that.
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| posted on May 24th, 2007 at 06:19 PM |
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2nd hand turbo's at the wreckers start at $250 when i inquired last week...
only major cost is time...
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
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| posted on May 24th, 2007 at 06:23 PM |
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im watching a few on ebay ,just hoping i can be lucky and get a easy rebuild or theres some that were just changed so the owners could upgrade ,
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 09:43 AM |
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I think you'll find that by the time you bend up the exhaust, weld everything up, get a carbie fitted and fit a larger oil cooler (which you will
need), it is actually cheaper to buy a decent 2nd hand 1600. If you look around I think you'll find a 1600 for as little as $300, which is much
cheaper than a turbo setup for your 1200. Once you have the 1600 in the car, THEN TURBO that motor. Or buy a 1600 which needs a freshen up and build
it with the purpose of using the turbo. You might even get a worn 1600 for nicks if you look hard enough.
Coz you won't be satified with the 1200 for long, even with the turbo. Sell your 1200 off to some guys who are into early cars. 1200s are becoming
harder to find parts for and so are worth dollars.
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 09:45 AM |
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It would want to be a very strong 1200. I'd definatly have all the valves in the head replaced with new ones, as i've seen too many exhaust valves
fail from normal metal fatigue, let alone what will happen to the poor suckers when they are glowing red from the extra heat the turbo will make for
them.
The turbo you want is called a GT1752. They are from a SAAB 2.3lt 6 cylinder, and run from the first 3 cylinders only (1.3lt of exhaust flow). The
have been used with good success on the 1.1lt charade's from what I hear. This is as large as you want to go. It would make boost from about 2200
rpm, full boost by about 2500.
If you want a lot more low end torque i'd be looking at a GT15 or even a GT12 turbo.
The Nissan EXA T2 is WAY too large for a 1200, especially for offroad use IMO.
Expect to spend some $$$ on this project. Turbo's aren't cheap or simple.
Still interested? I have one a new GT1752 forsale for $350. Its brand new. I was going to use two of these on my engine, but decided to go larger
again.
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 10:09 AM |
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fuel presssure reg + fuel pump + oil cooler + bigger fuel lines + oil lines and fittings + all materials to do it = $$$. Buy a 1600.
A turbo 1200 is a waste of time IMO, T54
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 02:02 PM |
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yeah but help her do it ,and as she progresses then help her do it in a 1600 etc all the way to a 2332 efi intercooled baby
show us your gates
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 05:11 PM |
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thanx guys ,i just cant find anything around this ara from tamworth to armidale to gunnedah ,thats worth paying what people want for them ,,,the
cheapest ive found is a 1500 that needs a full rebuild and they still wanted $400 for it ,,,,
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 05:23 PM |
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I'm thinking source a 1600 single port and build the engine up out of the car. Make it all 100% and keep the 1200 as your backup engine. Wibble off
this forum can help you out with a side draft 40 IDF webber that is in perfect condition that would make an ideap carb for a pull through turbo
arrangement. Send him a U2U.
There is a bunch of "turboing a stock 1600" threads on the http://www.shoptalkforums.com forum in the forced induction section that are worth a read. They have made some pretty
reasonable power too for what is essentially stock engines. Enough to rival a built 1916 NA engine and then some.
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 05:27 PM |
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she is a he..no?
No disrespect, i just checked out the profile.
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posted by westi
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 05:30 PM |
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 06:45 PM |
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hi nuts dont you recognise the addy,i had too use the missus name ,i wanted to use jasonb but i said there was allready someone with that username
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 07:11 PM |
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Aah, all clear now...back to the turbo 1200.
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 07:44 PM |
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I was just thinking, why not find a cactus late type 3 (wagon is best) and buy that for a few hundred dollars. Then you get all the IRS components you
need for a real Baja, plus a 1600 with twin carbs that you can convert to upright (or leave as is, it's a Baja after all). The discs on the front can
be machined so they will fit king and link pin and the drums late drums can go on the back. The brake upgrade means an instant ok from the engineer
when you get it done. You have everything you need to have a great baja. If you want to turbo it later then you can do that too.
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| posted on May 25th, 2007 at 09:34 PM |
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ok guys ill put a swap add in the for sales and see what i come up with ,if i get nothin ill stick with the 1200 and have a little play ,i spose thats
all i can try ,,,thanx guys
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| posted on May 26th, 2007 at 10:56 AM |
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hey pete that is great adivce thanks .. man i think the baja thing is becoming stronger again.. and great way to get the bits with out spending a
fortune
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| posted on May 26th, 2007 at 05:08 PM |
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good on ya kroozn. go get dirty...if you know what I mean 
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| posted on May 27th, 2007 at 08:56 PM |
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so ya can run a type 3 donk without the upright gear in a baja
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| posted on May 27th, 2007 at 09:03 PM |
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Hi peoples
I have seen Type 3 and Type 4 motors in standard set up running in a BAJA and Buggys.
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| posted on May 28th, 2007 at 07:13 PM |
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I wouldn't run a type 3 setupas the motor will run hot. I have experienced this. So speaking from experience
BJ
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| posted on May 28th, 2007 at 07:24 PM |
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Upright a Type 3 donk as their standard cooling system is notorious for running hot on the side with the oil cooler from memory.
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