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 whatnow
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 12:25 PM |
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painting over enamal paint.
my car is curriently painted in enamel? paint but i would like to paint over it red oxide (the paint is nasty, i don't like the colour plus i
will be swapping panels and would like it to be one colour)
i tried painting a few small bits with acrylic primer but this just crazed. will red oxide bond to the current paint? if not is there a way that i can
seal the current paint so that i can paint over it with red oxide.
please note this is just a tempory measure (well maybe up to a few years) till i get the cash together to bare metal the car and fit the correct
interior etc, so i would prefur something that isn't too hard to remove.
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henry.
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 01:23 PM |
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vgs at girraween will sell you a sealer to seal the paint you have,then apply your acylic primer then paint,dont use red oxcide,its to hard to sand
back,and you get pin holes in it if you dont get it on right.... |
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 01:57 PM |
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You will find that yr just wasting good effort and money.
All the enamel must come off if you intend on painting the car in Acrylic.
It will keep bleeding through the new paint and you will be disappointed.
buy 4 liters of paint stripper and do the job first time right.
Or you could scuff and re paint with enamel if you wanted to.
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 02:03 PM |
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hey dave,i have used the sealer heaps of times with good results,just need to give the enamel a good rub,and dust the sealer on slowly,with light
coats,
and as this is for a quick clean up job which he wants to do until he has plenty of money for a good job.
we dont all want show cars,
just cruiser,,,,,,,,,,,
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 04:46 PM |
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yeah i know thw sealer works but i still dont trust it.
just my own fears i suspose.. would rather strip n be safe...
some painters wont give guarentee if they do it with sealer.
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 05:01 PM |
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thanks to both of you for the advice.
i will give VGS a buzz.
to be honest as i can't afford to do all of the stuff now to make it pretty, i would rather make it look NASTY (but sort of looked after). at the
moment getting the running gear to the state i want it is my top priority.
dave, i know it will have to be stripped to bare metal in the future but till i have the time/cash to do all the stuff i want to it (and belive me
there is a lot of stuff to do yet), plus do it to the standard i want, i'll have to settle for something quick, easy and cheap.
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 07:15 PM |
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so you couldnt just rough it up, apply a thin filler/primer spray and spray colour over?
Reimagined/Recycled/Upcycled Cool
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 08:15 PM |
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No Problems
The old saying Do what you can afford
I just added another bit to it
Do what you can afford but dont waste your money at the same time.
Try the sealer primer... I am sure it works fine.
If when you spray the enamel your self... heat the job indoors with light lamps if possible
or another trick is to heatt he paint before its applied ... making if flow on the job and get a smoother less peel finish.
there used to be some places around that you could rent for the day a spray booth that would be ideal.
go for it let us know how it turns out.
I used to spray enamel in the backyard... that was fun trying to keep the bugs of the finish coats
I only did it 2 times then learnt about acrylic and its benifits of being able to rub out your mistakes.
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 08:27 PM |
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buy some 2 pac primer costs around 100 bucks for 4 litres and it will seal everything then when ur ready sand it back apply another coat and then
spray ur car!!!!
it comes in a arrange of colours aswell and its sets rock hard!!!
cheers
rhys
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 08:35 PM |
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why not just sand back enamel back and prime with 2pac primer filler (e.g protec's hyfill) and then paint in acylic or basecoat or 2pac. so i
guess i agree with kombi kid
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 08:46 PM |
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Unfortunately the fact is your car is painted with enamel, and is frying up when painted with acrylic.
Your options are-
Repaint with enamel of similar qualities, which will be cheap. Not necessarily the best finish.
Use a sealer and hopefully it will hold the enamel back enough to paint acrylic on carefully. Don't curse if it does fry though.
Strip it to bare metal and go all the way. Your limiting factor will be the high cost.
There are a lot of good answers posted so far. This is tricky and there is not really a right answer, it is your decision.
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| posted on May 20th, 2003 at 08:50 PM |
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good call helbus
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| posted on May 21st, 2003 at 12:46 AM |
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thanks everyone, lots of good ideas, now all i've got to do is make the decission, then go out and do it. hehe.
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| posted on May 21st, 2003 at 09:52 AM |
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Decisions Decisions....
A very constructive post...
Toss the coin maybe ?
But have a :beer while yr doing it.
Let us know the outcome.
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| posted on May 21st, 2003 at 06:48 PM |
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If you are painting it in enamel again, and will be taking it off again in a couple of years, just put a thin coat on so you have less to take off
then.
Oh yeah and definitley have plenty of :beer 's
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| posted on May 27th, 2003 at 01:03 AM |
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Don't overlook Dave's advice if you're going to paint over the enamel. No matter what you do, it would be wise to "scuff"
the paint (sand it) before painting over.
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