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| posted on November 18th, 2007 at 02:52 PM |
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Type 3 motors
What motor(s) were available as standard on the later type 3's in Australia?
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| posted on November 19th, 2007 at 07:17 AM |
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1600 fitted with twin carbies
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| posted on November 19th, 2007 at 08:56 AM |
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Or 1600 EFI... but theres not many of those getting around because rednecks who can't be bothered learning about them just rip it out and replace it
with carbies..
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| posted on November 19th, 2007 at 07:27 PM |
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That's what I thought - I wasn't sure if a single carby 1600 was still available then, with the twin-carby as the optional extra...Thanks for the
replies.
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| posted on November 20th, 2007 at 04:54 PM |
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1600 engines
Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
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| posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 09:53 PM |
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I'm sure Jo didn't mean to offend anyone, but it's true.
Many people opt to just remove the FI setup just because it might need a tune up or something.
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| posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 10:02 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by mp68
Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
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I'm sure Jo wasn't implying anything to the people of Bundaberg...but it was a fair comment.People saw the EFI as too complex so stuck with what
they knew if they had problems...they went back to carbs.
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| posted on November 24th, 2007 at 08:32 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by mp68
Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
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Precious much?
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| posted on November 25th, 2007 at 03:26 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by mp68
Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
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Unwelcome... lol....
I will quote who i feel is to be the biggest redneck around.
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To me, the definition of redneck is a glorious absense of sophestication
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I think we are all guilty of that at one time or another
I am a redneck. and proud!
Oh and yes... Carbs are much more easier.
To get back on track.
1500 single port single carb. 1500 single port twin carb. aswell as 1600tp and injected.
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| posted on November 25th, 2007 at 05:53 PM |
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"You might be a redneck if your Christmas ornaments are made out of spent shot-gun shells."
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| posted on November 25th, 2007 at 09:34 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Think "redneck" comment bit unwelcome in this forum which is a happy place. Normally mellow thoughts without negative vibe .
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You used VIBE and MELLOW all in one sentence  Now for CHILL, GROOVY
and PEACE OUT.
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| posted on November 26th, 2007 at 07:36 PM |
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the comment about rednecks may be fairly accurate, but the tern used to describe the type of people that remove EFI for the simplicity of carbs is
probably not really 'redneck'
(my boss doesnt seem to like fuel injected cars of any kind because its too hard to figure out problems)
Danielles beetle is back of the road for its makeover, and I got the job of project manager/head mechanic/artistic advisor/ideas man.
and somehow she got a type 3, which is all good, because I got 'Victa' the 'spare parts Type 3'
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| posted on November 26th, 2007 at 09:01 PM |
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Dang nammit.
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| posted on November 26th, 2007 at 10:00 PM |
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"You might be a redneck if - you're offended by my last post"
Sorry couldn't resist.
Seriously though, i know you don't have to be a "redneck" to rip off the EFI, and i know that alot of the time it was because parts were too hard
to get hold of etc etc.
I still think its a damn shame. 
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 06:58 AM |
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Go the Fuel Injection
Keepin' it Lovin' it and proud!
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 07:01 AM |
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I guess the term redneck evolved from the redness in the neck when the customer tried to strangle the mechanic for not fixing the efi properly.
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 06:59 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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I guess the term redneck evolved from the redness in the neck when the customer tried to strangle the mechanic for charging so much to
fix the efi properly.
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that sounds better. just a little offtopic, does anyone ditch the stock management and use something a little more advanced on these things??
Danielles beetle is back of the road for its makeover, and I got the job of project manager/head mechanic/artistic advisor/ideas man.
and somehow she got a type 3, which is all good, because I got 'Victa' the 'spare parts Type 3'
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 07:42 PM |
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I am with Matt. Running stock efi on my daily driver - no probs. Interested to know how many efi's managed to survive this "evil redneckness that
they speak of" and still going strong.
Cheers
Dave
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| posted on December 3rd, 2007 at 10:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by jo_tas
Or 1600 EFI... but theres not many of those getting around because rednecks who can't be bothered learning about them just rip it out and replace it
with carbies..
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Spot on!
either too hard or no idea back then.
but now they are getting old and all the sensors are expensive or hard to get.
for the last three years or so i have been using the stock set up with an after market computer and injectors. They drive so nice and save fuel and go
like an 1800cc.
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| posted on December 4th, 2007 at 12:55 AM |
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All my type 3's lost the EFI with the previous owners
There must be heaps of EFI parts either at the dump or burried in sheds around the country.
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| posted on December 5th, 2007 at 12:42 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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All my type 3's lost the EFI with the previous owners
There must be heaps of EFI parts either at the dump or burried in sheds around the country.
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I think everyone threw them out!
I have been struggling to get the original manifolds lately.
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| posted on December 5th, 2007 at 03:53 AM |
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You ask a simple question and look where it goes!
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| posted on December 5th, 2007 at 05:57 PM |
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Well you did leave it too long to check back.. lol
did you expect anything less for us type3 owners.... Long live my Dell's and my 1500sp single carb...
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| posted on December 11th, 2007 at 08:46 PM |
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Long live the EFI!
Sorry Tazz, just had to add my bit!
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| posted on December 12th, 2007 at 06:47 AM |
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From memory I think the EFIs engines were only in the Fastbacks
anyone seen any different ???
there were also 1600 single port engines with twin carbies from about 67 to early 69 when they introduced the twin port heads
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| posted on December 12th, 2007 at 08:11 AM |
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Think your right dave.... i have noticed out of all the EFI cars.. there all fasties...
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| posted on December 15th, 2007 at 04:42 PM |
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The reason for my original question is that I'd looked at a '72 square that seemed generally very original and unmolested - original books, low
miles etc. Being sold by the daughter after her father died and left to her. It had a single carby/single port motor. I assumed the motor had been
changed out, but thought I'd ask the question as I don't know the ins and outs of type 3's. The general view of replies is that either the 1600
twin-carb or 1600 EFI motor was the motor on a '72 model.
However now I've looked a bit more having got it home I wonder if perhaps it is original. The daughter is not sure, but thinks the mileage (89000
miles) is original as neither her father or her uncle who owned it before him from almost new drove it a lot. The condition of the seats/carpet etc
would support these miles also. 89k miles seems low to need a motor change. The handbook (August 1971 printed in Germany) shows that either a 1600
twin-carby motor, 1500 single carb motor or 1600 EFI motor was available, but varied over different markets.
The engine lid has a 'shadow' marking on the underside from the air cleaner, but no sign of any such shadow from a twin-carby arrangement. I
haven't found the engine number yet, need to have a bit of a clean-up to see this. Genny is 12V.
I guess I'm asking does this seem feasible if a bit unusual to have a 1500 single-port in a '72 square as standard? I'll get the engine number
ASAP, I'm only aware of the general area for the number.
It doesn't worry me much, easier to keep the engine in tune but nice to know one way or the other.
Cheers, Angus
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| posted on December 26th, 2007 at 11:27 AM |
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there were the double carb models on single and twin port. also the type 3 series was the first ever production car in the world to have efi.
but i thought they came out with a single carb model as well.... i thought i saw a type three at a vw show once with a single carb. might be
wrong....
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| posted on December 26th, 2007 at 04:37 PM |
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1500 single port single carb. 1500 single port twin carb. aswell as 1600tp and injected.
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Yup... as i said....
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