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 Doug Sweetman
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| posted on November 22nd, 2007 at 03:17 PM |
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Type 1 Lifters in Type 4 engine
Hi all,
Long time no visit..... but I have a mate here at work who owns a 914 porsche and would like to install type 1 lifters into the Type 4 motor it is
running.
Apparently a bush is required to fit the Type 1 lifters into the Type 4 block - would anyone know who might carry these in Australia or overseas ?
Appreciate your feedback, many thanks in advance.
Hope everyone is well and happy and enjoying their VW rides.
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Doug
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| posted on November 22nd, 2007 at 04:39 PM |
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Why go to all that trouble and extra expense ????
dont know of anyone who has done this or stocks the bush
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| posted on November 22nd, 2007 at 07:56 PM |
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rod penrose might have suitable lifters for you. unsure about the bushing though.
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| posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 06:22 AM |
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The bushings will most likely have to be made as a one-off.
This is due to normal lifter bore wear.
Aluminium bronze or 7075 aluminium would be my choice of material,
and have the lifter bores finished AFTER being fitted.
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| posted on November 24th, 2007 at 10:09 AM |
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Unless your going to run a big cam with huge lift and duration it aint worth the time and money you also have to machine flat the lifter bores ala
type 1 case. I just came back from Canada and visited Jake Raby, he has new tool steel lifters that will do the trick. He has them for type 4, type
1 and wasser engines. Using standard type 1 lifters you do need to bush the lifter bores, but he can get them made to use standard type 4 lifter with
type 1 face on them, your looking at around $300 US for a set. Look at his site forums aircooled technology and it has more info than i have given,
also the typefourum on shoptalk fourms a user type 4 unleashed also has thes unique lifters.
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| posted on November 24th, 2007 at 10:24 AM |
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i knoe the lifters n cams are soft and wear easy in the Type 4 engines but is there any other advantage ???
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| posted on November 24th, 2007 at 05:56 PM |
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The larger head diameter allows for a faster lift rate on the lobe.
Scat used to sell a 'drop in' lifter for this purpose,
but not sure about their reliability under current lubrication availability.
Sounds like Damo is onto a good thing if that is your cup of tea (type 4s)
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| posted on November 25th, 2007 at 07:11 AM |
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http://www.ahnendorp.com in germany does this a lot. He also sells original Mahle
type 1 lifters (about 130 euro a set iirc).
Personally I always use a light type 1 lifter with any cam I have ever used. Never had a flat cam.
At the moment, the light-weight (56,5 gram) tool steel type 1 lifters from Thorsten Pieper at about 250 euro a set are 'the thing' for me and all I
use.
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 02:09 PM |
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I believe that my mate wants to do it to quieten his engine down a bit, in terms of valvetrain noise.... it has been suggested by PEter Arnoldi overe
here in Perth. I dont know any more than that about it.
Many thanks for all of your responses !
Good to see the spirit is live and kicking here on Aussieveedubbers...
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 05:23 PM |
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go hydrolic lifters can geyt for t1 fix rattle prob
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 05:24 PM |
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just had a thought what if i swap him my t3 caravel with really quiet lifters for his rattley bold 914 and i don't any money just to be a bloody nice
bloke
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| posted on November 27th, 2007 at 08:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vw54
i knoe the lifters n cams are soft and wear easy in the Type 4 engines ???
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WTF........you've been listening to the wrong people.
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