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posted on November 22nd, 2007 at 10:41 PM
motorbike folks - opinions sought pls.. bike is here!


hey fellow bike riders..
i am currently looking at upgrading to another german ride - BMW R 1200GS (current breed)
i am wanting to know if anyone has any good, bad or indifferent views on such an animal..
i would love hear and value any comments re the 1200
cheers for your input
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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 07:45 AM



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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 08:20 AM



I know a guy in the States who raves about them. He's had plenty of other bikes - and is a reasonably switched on guy. I've still got my R90S that I bought nearly 30 years ago - so I;m biased to the Beemers too. I guess it comes down to what sort of riding that you want to do. Last bike I rode was a Suzuki Hayabusa - and I've still got the dings in the back of my skull from where my eyeballs hit as I cranked it open. Not the sort of bike that I would like to own.
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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 08:43 AM



Didn't you get an F650GS not so long ago?

If you don't mind that the BMW's are overpriced, then go for it. They are supposed to be very good from all the reviews I've read.

I reckon the new F800GS might be the goods

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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 09:14 AM



All depends on what you want it for. Are you looking at using it for dirt roads/offroad/touring, have alwayas heard they are the leader for that sort of thing. But if its bitumen would a softer version be any good.

I was looking at getting the f800s as a new ride. Its about as close as i can get to a v twin sporty bike for under 20k. ( don't like the colour of the svthou, don't want another sv650, don't like the vtr and can't afford a duke)......




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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 AM



If I didn't want to go offroad, and just liked that style of bike (which I do) then I'd go for the Triumph Tiger. It's pretty damn good value for money;
http://www.bikepoint.com.au/portal/alias__bikepointau/tabID__5760/ArticleID__120589/DesktopDefault.aspx

The Suzuki DL1000 is better value, but the triumph looks better. The BMW R1200GS would be the better dirt bike of the 3.

I think I actually have a comparison in a bike mag at home.




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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 03:05 PM



Good point wes, the triumph is a nice bike...


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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 05:07 PM



So your thinking about a new Bike are keen on a KG and looking for a 23 window split , SO YOU OBVIOSLY DID ALL RIGHT BUY SELLING PAWS PET SITTERS AND YOU HAVE KILLED THE MISSUS ????????? :lol::lol::lol:



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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 08:53 PM



Two guys i work with have both just bought new 1200 BMs.One guy has always had em an was raving about em.They often put up ride day info on the notice board and this day The BMW dude and a Harley rider were the only guys to show.They swapped for a bit and the Harley Guy(who even looks likes a biker)traded his Hog in for a 1200GS the next weekend!!
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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 09:24 PM



thanks for your input guys..
true, i did get the 650gs a little while back but that was 'always' for my missus,
now as she wants it to ride im lucky enuff to get what i want n better still shes happy to be payin for it..
so cool i say.. ya only live once so try n do what ya want here as theres no reruns - to my way of thinking..
this looks to be a great cruiser and dirt road/off road bike which is what my missus n i want to take to tackle around parts of australia where roads are a bit ??
i like the my07 R1200GS as apposed to the my08s coming soon hense the asking nowish yeah..
i know that they maybe a bit on the exxy side but ive given a few a trial and this has come out ontop for me..
i dont mind the new GS800 but im afraid i'll feel unsatisfied unless i go for what i really want..
im sure some of the hog riders @ work will want to give one a spin if i get one thats for sure.. especially my mate with the MV
n yes aw we were happy to sell our business and yes i still have my missus.. :smilegrin:
great to kick a few goals once in a while.. a good feeling hey
thankyou for your input n look forward to anymore..
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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 11:21 PM



The closest I've ridden is a '89 R100GS
I've had quite a few BM's, and the GS was a very nice bike to ride, but the front end was a bit soft and front brake (single disc) a little weak for my liking on the road. Those things made it great off road though.
Just my opinion, and depending on the riding you intend to do, I actually prefer a good touring bike, most will handle dirt roads just fine and be nicer to ride on the road if that's where it will spend the majority of it's time. Also most have a fairing of some sort which makes long trips more comfortable.

Not an option if you intend to do some serious off roading of course, but then a big road trail bike is a handfull to control in those conditions (how heavy is a current 1200GS?), you'd be better off on the F650! (watch "long way round" on SBS Sat. nights to see what I mean)

Dad has one of the last BMW cruisers (they were discontinued a few years back). The motor is a detuned and older version of would be in the current GS, it has run faultlessly for him, ~20,000km so far.
Actually of all the BM's we've had in the family, all have been faultless, including the R50!!

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posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 PM



oh my DR 250 is ok !!



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posted on November 24th, 2007 at 09:26 AM



I've ridden my friends R1200S street-bike. I didn't like it. Very BMW with lots of weird things (like the blinkers). I think the jap bikes are much better.

I've ridden a friends R1150GS, I didn't like it either. It was heavy and slow, I could keep up with it in acceleration on my 650 V-strom. The R1200GS's are a big improvement on the R1150GS's though (in paper specifications at least, since I haven't ridden the later).




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posted on November 24th, 2007 at 10:24 AM



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I've ridden a friends R1150GS, I didn't like it either. It was heavy and slow, I could keep up with it in acceleration on my 650 V-strom.


Must be very differnt to the older GS then, the R100GS feels as light to ride as the old ('84) XT600 I had. At least while riding, try to pick both up and it's a differnt story :)
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posted on November 24th, 2007 at 09:06 PM



The R100GS was 187kg (about the same as my V-strom).

The R1150GS was a rather porky 229kg.

The R1200GS came back down to about 200kg (quite a weight saving from the last model). The new Triumph Tiger is about the same weight as the R1200GS, but more powerful. And cheaper.




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posted on November 24th, 2007 at 09:55 PM



I have a 1200 Harley Sportster. I don't get BMW's. Bit like Horses for courses. Each to their own. If I can drive a 40y.o. VW on a daily basis, a harley is considered modern for me (it has a kmph speedo.).
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Quote:
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I have a 1200 Harley Sportster. I don't get BMW's. Bit like Horses for courses. Each to their own. If I can drive a 40y.o. VW on a daily basis, a harley is considered modern for me (it has a kmph speedo.).
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posted on November 25th, 2007 at 08:45 AM



Hi there, A Beemer...naahhh get a harley! there awesome!!! only kidding what ever your ride stay safe. :cool:



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posted on November 25th, 2007 at 09:51 AM



Quote:
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I have a 1200 Harley Sportster. I don't get BMW's.


Isn't that a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, I mean Harleys are more overpriced and querky than BMW's :D




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posted on November 28th, 2007 at 05:41 AM



Being a long term BMW M/C owner I feel a bit of an explanation is required about why these things have such a hardcore following. In the 70's if you were a rallyist what options did you have for a mount. Brittish, Jap, and the odd Italian stallion or The BMW. On a 600 mile trip on a japper or britt, it was pot luck if you were going to make it, if you had a Guzzi your chances were a lot better! But if you had a BMW it was a 99.9% reality that you would get there, the other .1 of a % was if you forgot to fill the tank before setting off. Over time the others caught up with better designs and quality control, but the legend of the BMW was firmly entenched. If you wanted to travel big distances with good reliability and in a reasonable amount of comfort the BMW was the one!
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posted on November 28th, 2007 at 09:57 PM



They lost their reliability a little. A friend has an R1150GS (or similar, I haven't seen it yet because it hasn't been running) and it's fuel pump died because the strainer bag decomposed. He rang BMW and they said "yeah that happens, the plastic doesn't like Australian fuels". And guess what, the replacement will have the same problem. He's trying to work out how to get a jap fuel pump in there :)



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Tell him to talk to Ray Peak. 07 55435962. arguably the best BM workshop in OZ. he is out at wonglepong just up from canungara. Im sure he would have a fix for the problem, the blokes a genious, people from all over the country go to see him. The problem your friend is having is one of the reasons I will never part with my old one. There is too much that can go wrong with the new stuff. They have a shitload more power but with a 100 km open road speed limit in this country what can you do with more than 100hp anyway!
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posted on November 29th, 2007 at 11:31 PM



100hp?
I'm happy with the 26hp of the R50. Still going strong at young age of 52......
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I spose with 75 hp that makes me a bit of a excessive hoon then!
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posted on December 4th, 2007 at 06:21 PM



If we`re talking HP, may i suggest my ride, 160hp on 168kg with 135kph in 1st gear =a hell of a way to get to the shops for some milk

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posted on December 5th, 2007 at 08:21 AM



:crazy: that is crazy man.. totally.. nice ride tho..

well bikers i have ordered something but i will keep a lid on it until i can plaster a pic on here for you all to see.. sweet!
i looked at many and am super happy with what i have picked as me n the missus can go for rides together into the sunset.. hooray!
+ i shall pick it up in mid jan when im back from xmas hols..
roll on xmas..
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not long now.. pickin it up next week.. :smilegrin:
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