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BEETLE HIGH PERFORMANCE VENTED DISC BRAKES
I have high performance Beetle brake kits for sale.
This kit meets the intent of all Australian states' 'modified vehicle' engineering guidelines for hassle-free engineering/mod plating
VENTED FRONT
From $1320 inc GST
* 287x24mm high quality DBA 'Kangaroo Paw' slotted rotors
* CNC machined hub with M14x1.5 studs
* CNC machined caliper brackets to suit PBR Commodore calipers
* CNC machined stub axle (exchange required)
* Included are all new bearings, seals, high tensile bolts required to install
* Components electro-plated for corrosion resistance
* No increase in wheel track dimension - no guard rubbing
* Formidable stopping power and fade resistance
* Ideal for Subaru transplants where vented brakes 'to donor car specs' are required for engineering/mod plate/legal street registration.
To keep the bucks down, this kit in its basic $1320 form is supplied without callipers so you can source your own choice of second-hand or rebuilt
Commodore callipers.
I can supply second-hand calipers for $80pr. I can provide brand new calipers (as pictured) and quality 'street' pads for an extra $400 bringing the
total - as pictured - to $1720. As you can see, they look nice painted!
VW and Porsche stud patterns in stock; other stud patterns by request:
Add $100 for Porsche stud pattern. Other stud pattern - $POA
These brakes require a minimum 15-inch aftermarket wheel. These brakes will NOT fit VW steel 'widies'. Bias valve and/or master cylinder upgrade is
required. This kit is not intended for cars with rear drum brakes.
Available for immediate shipping for Beetles:
Ball Joint - 'small' and 'large' tie rod styles
L-bugs (2-bolt front end)
3-bolt Super and Type III - available to special order
REARS: from $990 * NOW INCLUDES PADS AND NUTS!! *
I have this light but effective rear disc kit that is a good match for VWs with standard 278mm front discs. It can also be teamed with the big vented
front kit.
This kit meets the intent of all Australian states' Codes of Practice for Light Vehicle Modifications.
As with my front kit, I save all the hard work of a 'custom' brakes kit by providing all the machining and hardware required to fit your choice of
second-hand or rebuilt callipers and provide cleaned/inspected second-hand 'core' callipers for free.
* 260x10mm DBA solid disc
* Brand new hub machined from quality German-manufactured core
* M14x1.5 studs
* Kombi wheel nuts
* New performance brake pads
* Calliper mount machined to suit VW
* Handbrake lever and cable mount modified to suit VW
* Once again, this is a true BOLT-ON UPGRADE supplied with all new gaskets, spacers and bolts/nuts required
* Slotting optional $160
Extra studs and nuts to convert your standard VW front discs can be supplied for $100.
This kit weighs less than Type 3 drums and fits inside 14-inch wheels.
Inspect, pick up or delivery from Newcastle or Sydney NSW.
Shipping I can mail/ship these brakes anywhere by Australia Post etc. Ask and I will quote for you.
For the full story on the development of these brakes, check out this thread:
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=36884&page=11#pid636615
Please note, the thread is a 'diary' of the process of developing and testing these brakes so some information and specifications have changed.
U2U/PM on here
0411 274 155
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| posted on March 15th, 2008 at 01:01 PM |
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where a pic of the caliper whats the piston size
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| posted on March 15th, 2008 at 03:22 PM |
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So supply and fit plus and certify to my 1500 Beetle is how much ?
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| posted on March 15th, 2008 at 04:24 PM |
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where a pic of the caliper whats the piston size
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Here's a pic of the calliper I used for development, with a size comparison between brake pads. Piston size is 54mm, from memory
Ian & Brian, you will need to contact an engineer for his prices. The best plan of attack is to perform all your mods together (eg: engine,
suspension, seats and brakes) when building a car and have the engineer inspect and re-certify the car once
http://www.streetmachine.com.au
click on 'Find Engineer' in the menu on the left side of the home page
EDIT: There have been a few questions about what DBA's 'Kangaroo Paw' brake rotors are; here's a pic.
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| posted on March 15th, 2008 at 06:09 PM |
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Why did you use single piston calipers? (Dont say because they were there, although the smart answer!)
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| posted on March 15th, 2008 at 06:18 PM |
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Why did you use single piston calipers? (Dont say because they were there, although the smart answer!)
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Yeah , on the Back ok
but the OE fronts are twin pistons at least
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| posted on March 15th, 2008 at 10:19 PM |
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Why did you use single piston calipers? (Dont say because they were there, although the smart answer!)
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The number of pistons used in a calliper is largely immaterial; 'Two' is not automatically better than 'one'. For true high performance, other
specifications are more important, such as pad area, long-term durability and parts/pads availability - all of which is no problemo with this caliper.
A big single-piston calliper with a large pad will out-brake a small twin-piston calliper all day, everyday
I took a commonsense approach: I chose a readily-available caliper designed and validated for a V8-powered car weighing 1500+ kg and made it fit the
VW with half the mass - it works well
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| posted on March 15th, 2008 at 10:41 PM |
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Why do all race type of calipers have opposing pistons then?
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Read the thread on the development of the 'kit' and it will make sense.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=36884&page=11#pid636615
I am sure there are more exotic calipers available, but none that can be had for $300 a pair new including pads and provide such an increase in pad
area, and meet all local regulations.
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| posted on March 17th, 2008 at 06:59 AM |
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ya think so ?
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Hi Craig,
I hope you don't mind me dropping in my 2c. I am currently doing a brake upgrade for my turbo54 and after talking to a few circuit racers the general
opinion is that beetles are very light and very easy on brakes.
I have gone overkill on my package and have payed for it in excess weight. I have also had wheel offset problems and all for what? To say I have big
brakes when Glens setup would of been perfect. You have got to ask yourselves what yu really want from your brakes? Yeah sure you have great brakes
but is the rest of your car up to there standard? The opposing piston caliper is great when you have a wide car and can afford to run 17x8 inch rims.
Remember you need to get a caliper on each side of your disk. How fat rims cans you squeeze under a factory rear guard? Glen has kept it all to
factory track widths and to make it easy to get it engineered and as a bolt on upgrade so you dont have to change wheels when you buy a kit. I think
it is a great option for people who want to buy a setup and the fact it is all available here with no import taxes and spare are cheap... how can you
go wrong?
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| posted on March 19th, 2008 at 10:25 AM |
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Spot on T54, why are people trying to make things so complicated. You dont like this package, go get your own. I would say most want to have a great
brake setup that can being driven hard on a daily basis and ease of replacement parts when service is due. Will say it one more time, more than happy
with how my "VWCOOL" brake package works. And trust me mine was a prototype for Type 3 aplication and was a damn site dearer than what is being
asked now, thats what it comes down to with R&D.$$$ get spent first.
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I have a very similar 'kit' on my TIII that I built years ago.... I use the same type of rotor (DBA Supra replacement), custom caliper brackets, OEM
Golf hubs (100PCD and very hard to find) and Series IV RX7 4 piston calipers (also very hard to find).... I have these inside 17" rims an they are
very sweet.... Craig T knows what I'm on about, he's seen these brakes up close.... This set up cost me close to $700 to build up and I'm very
happy with the set-up.... But one thing you all should know.... It took me some months to source the parts, make numerous mock-ups and build it.... It
could be turned into a kit like Glen's, but I doubt I could make for the same coin.... The use of Commy calipers is also a very good move (I use
Commy IRS rears on the front of my custom 205PCD brakes on my Ragtop)... Parts are cheap, rebuild costs are very low and they can be found anywhere in
the country.... Try doing that with Mazda caliper!
Good effort Glen....
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Hi guys,
All this talk of big brakes has got my interest.
Just wondering what sort of upgrades you have done to the master cylinder if any?
Cheers,
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| posted on April 16th, 2008 at 11:19 AM |
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None needed on Glen's kit or mine.... Though Glen does mention the possibility of fitting a bias valve... I have Magna discs on the rear of my car
and if anything, its a little under braked on the rear....
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Can these breaks be drilled to fit wide 5 wheels? also can you source drop spindles and a dual master cylinder?
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Oops sorry for this late reply; I was away for all of April and didn't know this here, no I haven't done a 'wide five' kit as most people who want
performance (rather than 'style' - IYKWIM) choose a four-stud car (1968-on/Super/L-bug) to modify. Try Vintage VW Supplies in Sydney for a wide-five
kit - they have done the hard work
Drop spindles: No, my big brakes are 'built' on standard spindles - BJ, L-Bug or Super 3-bolt - only
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does that mean that it wouldnt work with a set of cb dropped spindles? i reckon it probably would, but I m no expert....
also, another one while im at it craig, is there any chance you are working on a similar set up for the rear end?
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does that mean that it wouldnt work with a set of cb dropped spindles? i reckon it probably would, but I m no expert....
also, another one while im at it craig, is there any chance you are working on a similar set up for the rear end?
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Hey Kim.... Check out Glens signature.... He does rear disc brakes also.... And Im sure his kit could be made to fit drop spindles, but it would mean
the manufacture of new caliper brackets.... I know this, cause I have modded mine to fit LP bug drop spindles....
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This is Glenn, the spindles need machining and there are only CNC 'programs' for OE VW stuff. Yes the drop spindles may work, but I would need a set
for the machinist to measure up/check chassis clearances etc. The different axle centreline may cause the calliper to foul on the steering etc.
I'll take a look! Contact me U2U
Yes I supply rear discs to mate with the vented fronts, the 'biggies' are a slotted 287x15mm with either VW or Porsche stud pattern on a studded
hub.
I also supply a smaller rear disc package that is perfect match for standard VW front discs. It is 260x10mm and fits inside 14-inch wheels. VW
four-stud only, studded hub
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For those who asked, matching rear discs now in stock - pics and prices added. Slotting optional
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rears
Glenn,
Hows your production of rears going?
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Glenn,
Hows your production of rears going?
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Ready next week - if Aussie post is good to us, you should have by Easter 
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Hey Glenn
can you tell me what is the spacing between the bolts that mount the caliper brackets to the frame?
How much for the bolt pattern to be drilled to 4-100?
see my post in members rides to see if your set up might suit.....
I am not having any luck finding any options over this part of the world, nor in the states
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Rears are too big for type 3 fronts???
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Hey Glenn
can you tell me what is the spacing between the bolts that mount the caliper brackets to the frame?
How much for the bolt pattern to be drilled to 4-100?
see my post in members rides to see if your set up might suit.....
I am not having any luck finding any options over this part of the world, nor in the states
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The caliper's cradle has mounting holes on approx 78mm centres...
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Mick, got your U2U, my smaller rears (I do two sizes; there's picture earlier in this thread) are a perfect upgrade for Beetle/Type 3 fronts (and
behind my big vented fronts, too of course) but at this stage I only supply in 4-stud
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Hey Glenn
Any chance you can post up some pics of the calipers with the caliper bracket mounted up and maybe a tape measure alongside so that I can see
dimensions.
From memory, the centres I need are about 80-90mm.
will check tonight, cant remember exactly.
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What are the advantages of slotting?
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Added cooling, cleaning and they remove the gasses from between the pads and rotor
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