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Would you accept this for $900


Below are photos of a beam i got installed by a well known Sydney VW shop. I was informed that this was the best beam and best option. I also paid for them to install it as my time is tight and i assumed they would do a perfect job.

Once this beam was in my RHS wheel was right under the edge of the guard while my LHS wheel was tucked in. There was a difference of about 1inch. The rubbers on the trailing arms were frayed.

I was alarmed.

After closer inspection the driver side of the beam was badly beaten as were other parts of the beam. The black paint was also painted over the grease that had built up on this beam.

After taking the car to a different VW shop to get my windows put in, they too were alarmed and disappointed by the condition of the beam.

I removed this beam myself to put in another beam bought from a different VW shop. On doing so i found that the beam was DRY!!! No grease!!! Also, the nipple on the top driver side was not there and this was because the steering box was positioned there, so they thought 'o well, stuff greasing it, we'd have to make a new nipple hole'

On removing the beam it was clear that it was warped. Once i installed the new beam myself, the wheels were in the correct position.

What do you guys think of these pics?????

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1167.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1168.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1169.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1170.jpg




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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 03:23 PM



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1171.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1172.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1173.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1174.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1175.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1176.jpg


http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1177.jpg




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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 03:26 PM



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1178.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1179.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1180.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1181.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1182.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1183.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1184.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/IMG_1185.jpg



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 03:46 PM



cant see the pics
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 03:52 PM



Really? Can anybody else see them? I copied to IMG code from photobucket as i did with all the photos under 'members ride'...can you see those?

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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 03:52 PM



Wow! You must have upset someone as not even your photos are allowed:mad: It would be nice to be able to have the oppotunity to comment but no photos sort of puts a downer on things.
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 03:55 PM



Ha! Can you see the ones under 'members ride' ancientbugger?



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 03:57 PM



Can you see this one???

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1167.jpg




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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:00 PM



I can see all the ones in Members Rides and I can see that last one, but all the others say the image has been deleted or moved!
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:03 PM



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1168.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1169.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1170.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1171.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1172.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1173.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1174.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1175.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1176.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1177.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1178.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1179.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1180.jpg



http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/Mick058/beam/IMG_1181.jpg




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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:08 PM



i can see those. um thats a pretty poor job to come out of a Professional shop, i would want a full refund.
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:13 PM



I see them now! To me it looks like a quick job rather than a good one. A little bit of attention to detail and it shouldn't have been too much of a drama to get right and satisfy the customer but that's a sign of the times. Take it back but good luck.
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:14 PM



The best they could do me was $450 out of $900. I lost out on the labor, plus was back charged $100 because he used 'cut down steering arms' (the beam was 2inch narrowed) and torsion bars. I needed to use those on the new beam i got and installed, but he thought it fair to back charge me for them...



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:20 PM



Average chop chop.



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:20 PM



you payed labour for a professional job not a backyard job, thats poor. good luck with the rest of the car love the work your doing to it.
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:24 PM



yeh, pretty annoyed...

he also supplied seat belts and installed them. One on the buckles (the push in bit) is red and the other is orange, its very easy to tell...On this he said it was the suppliers fault and he'd need to send them back and was unsure how long that would take...I didn't bother because i don't trust him, plus his upset he had to refund the beam. Hopefully he doesn't re-use that beam on someone else's bug.

Its hard to see from the photos how bashed it was...i'll bite my tongue




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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:39 PM



thats why i get my beams done through custom vee dub.

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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 04:44 PM



name and shame!
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 07:11 PM



Mick - Craig told me about this one. Pretty poor if you ask me. You've done the right thing, and at least got some money back. Re the belts - I got mine done by a certified seat belt installer. That way they have everything in stock, and will really guarantee the work - and not piss in your pocket.
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 08:12 PM



I cant believe the pictures,thats just crap you should show them to the department of fair trading or someone,or else these people will do it again???



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 08:56 PM



Fair trading I reckon, stick it into em as much as you can.



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 09:23 PM



Im with Costa...name em and shame em.....
Good work gets advertised...so should bad! I hate bad workmanship and bad customer service-Wayne:)
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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 09:45 PM



also from your picture it looks as though they have shortened from only one end then moved the supports, the weld looks nasty :( talk to Dyno at Custom Vee Dubs, he did mine and I can guarantee that he did not need a grinder to tidy up :)



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 10:43 PM



I was going to explore the fair trading front but was a little concerned for my car at future shows etc. Even if they saw it on the street, or they need is a key-scrapppppeeee, right down the side-. Maybe sounds paranoid but then again it happens.



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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 11:33 PM



mmmm interesting workmanship but I have a few questions for you:

1. What did you pay for ? Was it a full reco ?

2. Did you supply the core or did they do it outright for you ?

3. Is this the same shop that told you it was not legal to have a single adjuster ?

4. Was the $900 that you paid to cover just the beam or was that what they cost you for a drive in / drive out service with them supplying the narrow beam outright and the labour to fit it to your bug ? On the invoice did they itemise what you were getting or just a single line ?

5. Did you have a good look at the leaves before you re-used them ? and where the tie rods shortened correctly ?




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posted on May 8th, 2008 at 11:45 PM



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HOLD OFF....this has got us (AVD) into trouble before whether it was justified or not. PM Brad (buggy brad), Jim (benettonvw) or Andrew (vanderaj) before you name any business as they are the head admins who have to deal with the legal ramifications of legal defamation suits directly.

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posted on May 9th, 2008 at 12:34 AM



dont name it on here, upload the pics to a web hosting site like photobucket.
go to an international VW website and link the pictures. make a post etc...
as you are linking the pictures NEVER say what you think of the job they have done but ask for a thought or two from the fellow dubbers regarding the quality.
post a link here of the post you have created, actually get a mate to post and link to avoid direct connection etc blah blah...
the post that was created on the international site includes the business name so all aussieveedubbers can avoid the less than avaerage death job that was done.
god bless international lack of laws and stuff
i think we all should know as a matter of safety
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posted on May 9th, 2008 at 12:37 AM



either that or just maybe pm for the name of the business



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posted on May 9th, 2008 at 12:45 AM



nah, anybody including the dodgy business owner can ask for the name and connect you to the business, then shit goes down
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posted on May 9th, 2008 at 07:45 AM



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mmmm interesting workmanship but I have a few questions for you:

1. What did you pay for ? Was it a full reco ?

2. Did you supply the core or did they do it outright for you ?

3. Is this the same shop that told you it was not legal to have a single adjuster ?

4. Was the $900 that you paid to cover just the beam or was that what they cost you for a drive in / drive out service with them supplying the narrow beam outright and the labour to fit it to your bug ? On the invoice did they itemise what you were getting or just a single line ?

5. Did you have a good look at the leaves before you re-used them ? and where the tie rods shortened correctly ?


I paid for supply and installation. $550 for the beam, $350 for labor. They did not re-use my beam, it was a beam he supplied all on his own. The leaves were checked by the VW shop i bought the new beam from (the one i installed myself). The tie Rods seem to work ok, but ill get them checked.

Yes it was the guy who told me one adjuster was illegal.




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