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| posted on June 23rd, 2008 at 05:41 PM |
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New crank in and almost ready for Warwick
After trashing my crank and flywheel at Portland this year, I have been busy in the shed doing the nessasay modifications to my old case so I can run
a stock 2.1 WBXer 76mm stroke crank with bolt on full weight flywheel, now that shouldn't come off!!.
Shimo at Dunhams cut the rear main bearing saddle so I can run the std WBXer 3 piece bearing, all the other bearings on the T3 crank are the same as
Beetle, I just had to modify the oil gallery for the bearing and make thrust washer locating tangs in the case with a small dremell and it is ready to
go in.
The engine assembles just like a normal crank with a bit of care not to loose the inside thrust washer out of its locating tang, once the end float is
set and the flywheel is on this in not a problem.
The engine is now all assembled and in the car with just a couple of small items to be sorted.
Here are a couple of photos of the WBXer crank in a T1 case, you will see the crank is not counterweighted  , T3 cranks are a lot heavier and stronger than a stock T1 crank and don't suffer from crank flex, the
bearings on the engine I pulled the crank out of had done over 200,000 Ks and the main bearings were still good enough to go another 200,000, and the
case was perfect.
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Brad
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| posted on June 23rd, 2008 at 05:46 PM |
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Sweet ... now it just needs a buggy body to go in :>
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dangerous
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| posted on June 23rd, 2008 at 05:48 PM |
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How hard will you rev it David?
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That's mad Alan.
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Menangler
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| posted on June 23rd, 2008 at 05:53 PM |
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It will probably see 7000-7500 rpm like the old crank did. time will tell!!
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| posted on June 23rd, 2008 at 09:43 PM |
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Hpoe to see you there Dave,wouldn,t be a drag meet with out you.
Cheers Col
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| posted on June 23rd, 2008 at 10:05 PM |
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Hi
You can buy 200mm flywheels to bolt straight onto the T4/WBX crank now from CIP or Jake Raby.
I think the WBX was redlined at 6250 rpm from the factory.
I was going to dowel in between the flywheel bolts if I had any issues on my WBX.
Steve
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| posted on June 24th, 2008 at 06:18 AM |
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I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.
I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)
Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on June 24th, 2008 at 10:53 AM |
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Great stuff Dave, goodt to see you back in action.
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| posted on June 24th, 2008 at 03:13 PM |
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posted by dangerous
I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.
I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)
Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.
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love to see the parts list for that motor... 
I guess he was using aftermarket rods and special pistonies too. Wonder what the heads looked like?
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| posted on June 24th, 2008 at 05:14 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi
You can buy 200mm flywheels to bolt straight onto the T4/WBX crank now from CIP or Jake Raby.
I think the WBX was redlined at 6250 rpm from the factory.
I was going to dowel in between the flywheel bolts if I had any issues on my WBX.
Steve
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Rod Penrose also has them in stock, stock weight and lights ones, that is where I bought mine from.
I am running everything heavy this time, I will see if it helps off the line with my tall 1st gear.
I am thinking a bit of inertia will help, as I usually leave the line at around 5000 rpm and shift at 7000, once it is up around those revs it stays
there and it's just a quick flat change up to the next gear.
It would be different with a roundy roundy track car, where you need the reciprocating lightness for quick power on and off in corners.
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| posted on June 24th, 2008 at 08:53 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pete wood
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posted by dangerous
I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.
I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)
Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.
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love to see the parts list for that motor...
I guess he was using aftermarket rods and special pistonies too. Wonder what the heads looked like?
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http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,3257.270.html
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on June 24th, 2008 at 11:11 PM |
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Nice.................a semi factory stroker 
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| posted on July 23rd, 2008 at 06:16 PM |
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Got it going yet Dave?
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2008 at 06:35 PM |
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Yes Dave, in and running, although I have only driven i out of the shed.
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| posted on July 24th, 2008 at 12:12 PM |
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ta dave
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| posted on July 24th, 2008 at 01:19 PM |
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Beck
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| posted on July 28th, 2008 at 01:08 AM |
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Was thinking about redoing my 1776 with one of these cranks, so I'm very keen to see how it goes...
Best of luck with it Dave...
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