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Vw motor trolly?
Howdy all,
I have done the google thing and i was wondering where i might find a few of these parts that seem to be tricks of the trades.
I was looking at a few vids of dropping the motor out and i saw this pretty cool looking trolly that allowed the jack to sit in the middle of it so
when you drop the motor it lands on this little trolly with wheels.
Also wondering about a little device that fits on the clutch to stop the flywheel from spinning when your undooign the bolts, given i havent called
around the local distributors yet.
-M
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| posted on July 14th, 2008 at 10:29 PM |
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the flywheel locks are availible in most VW shops for around $10
The trollies are usually home made and are simply 4 wheels on a steel frame. I had one with a ply top with carpet fitted that worked well.
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| posted on July 14th, 2008 at 10:46 PM |
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The best trolley to lower a vw motor on is the bottom frame of a shopping trolley.
Cut the basket part off and use the lower section. Because it is usually shaped in a U you can fit a jack under the engine and have the trolley frame
surrounding the jack ready to support the engine as you lower it from the engine bay.
Most supermarkets should have them available. 
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on July 14th, 2008 at 10:48 PM |
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LOL
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larf all ya like!! I'm serious dude!!
Best to choose the ones that have had the 4wd treatment so as not to upset the multinational owners (BYO Hacksaw or pensioner to wheel it back home to avoid suspicion......)
(Not speaking from experience or anything..............)
I wouldn't know of such things occuring....I am a good citizen
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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And for the record.."apparently" the ones from Coles are the best..
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| posted on July 15th, 2008 at 09:29 AM |
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This Guy used to be on Egay all the time but now he's moved to Oztion. This tool works for locking flywheel & also to lock rear wheel hub when
undoing big axle nut.
http://www.oztion.com.au/buy/auction.aspx?itemid=4074929&d=&sort=0&pg=1&cat=242&view=List&f1=0&f2=&t
ype2=&type3=&type4=&type5=&s=&pcode=&dis=0&freepost=
He also does an axle nut removal tool, bench top engine stands, a plate that goes on top of your jack to spread the load on engine & a trolley as
you described. (if he hasn't got one listed at the moment, just e-mail him).
I don't know the guy in any way but I do have one of those plates for engine/jack & I'm happy with it.
Oh, and his tools are all galvanised, as far as I can tell, my jack plate is anyway.
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| posted on July 15th, 2008 at 04:39 PM |
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I can see a strange and sudden rise of trolleys going missing
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by eraser
Howdy all,
I have done the google thing and i was wondering where i might find a few of these parts that seem to be tricks of the trades.
I was looking at a few vids of dropping the motor out and i saw this pretty cool looking trolly that allowed the jack to sit in the middle of it so
when you drop the motor it lands on this little trolly with wheels.
-M
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I have used one of those galvanised VW engine trolleys and they make taking the engine out easy..
especially with a removeable rear valance..
Down and out... lol
the flywheel lock is also good for manual cars...
it won't work for autos flexplates
also, there is a valve spring tool... its great too..
lucky, My Son has all these...
Lee
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| posted on July 15th, 2008 at 09:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
I have used one of those galvanised VW engine trolleys and they make taking the engine out easy..
especially with a removeable rear valance..
Down and out... lol
the flywheel lock is also good for manual cars...
it won't work for autos flexplates
also, there is a valve spring tool... its great too..
lucky, My Son has all these...
Lee
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yeah i was acutally wondering about the flexplate (and after seeing your photogalery im scared i might damage my flexplate :P)
Anything special i need to watch out for when dropping the auto stick shift motor out? e.g any mreo hoses (appart form the obvious hoses?
and tell me more about this valve spring tool.
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| posted on July 15th, 2008 at 10:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by MickH
And for the record.."apparently" the ones from Coles are the best..
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Try to find one of the "rare" Bi-lo trolleys, Coles won't be needing them anymore!!
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on July 15th, 2008 at 10:56 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Notch Nut
The best trolley to lower a vw motor on is the bottom frame of a shopping trolley.
Cut the basket part off and use the lower section. Because it is usually shaped in a U you can fit a jack under the engine and have the trolley frame
surrounding the jack ready to support the engine as you lower it from the engine bay.
Most supermarkets should have them available.
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here here.. i have done the same trick.. available when you next shop!
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| posted on July 15th, 2008 at 11:11 PM |
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posted by Notch Nut
The best trolley to lower a vw motor on is the bottom frame of a shopping trolley.
Cut the basket part off and use the lower section. Because it is usually shaped in a U you can fit a jack under the engine and have the trolley frame
surrounding the jack ready to support the engine as you lower it from the engine bay.
Most supermarkets should have them available.
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here here.. i have done the same trick.. available when you next shop!
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This method was mentioned to me a few years back by a "respectable" gentleman from a VW club. Having worked in supermarkets for many years, I now
know why the older folk never return their trolleys and drive pristine VW's!
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on July 16th, 2008 at 10:10 PM |
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could someone post a pic of one of these elusive trolly dollys? One that they may of just seen roaming the streets? (the finished product of corse)
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| posted on July 17th, 2008 at 10:32 AM |
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These pics are of plans for factory designed trolley for VW workshops.
Taken from: Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project
http://oacdp.freeweb7.com
Regards,
Matt.
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| posted on July 17th, 2008 at 11:52 AM |
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Hey Notch Nut, i used to wotk in retail, dept manager at a major Supermarket.
i think i now know why we always seemed to have trolleys go missing.... hehehehehe.
(ps- carefactor is zero, good on you i say!! might as well get one back at them for screwing us where ever possible)
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| posted on July 17th, 2008 at 01:16 PM |
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make sure you get that 20 degree angle and 1.5 radii correct!
Pretty spiffy set up.
Just needs a mod to slide the trolley ack under it.
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could someone post a pic of one of these elusive trolly dollys? One that they may of just seen roaming the streets? (the finished product of corse)
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sorry no can do as mine is safely sleeping under a blanket in brisvegas town ATM..
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Hey Notch Nut, i used to wotk in retail, dept manager at a major Supermarket.
i think i now know why we always seemed to have trolleys go missing.... hehehehehe.
(ps- carefactor is zero, good on you i say!! might as well get one back at them for screwing us where ever possible)
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I've served 16 years of a life sentance in retail so far. Seen some interesting uses for trolleys in my time..
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on July 20th, 2008 at 04:39 PM |
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Someties you just gotta be lucky,
I was driving past coles/woolies and was actually saying to my partner "i need to find a trolly i can swipe for the beetle" which she rolled her
eyes to.
Anyway im driving arround behind the shopping center and i see something... i couldnt believe it...
Now is this all i wanted or am i needing to cut and weldo or something?
-Marc
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| posted on July 20th, 2008 at 07:14 PM |
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You will probably need to cut the top part of the frame where the basket was attached. Cut the un-needed bits off at the lower part of the frame so
it is flush. The U section (the frame part where the wheels are bolted onto) should be able to fit under the car so the engine can be lowered onto it
with the trolley jack. 
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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Don't worry if you stuff it up, as long as you have your reciept, they will be happy to oblige with an exchange or refund!!
If you can't fix it with a hammer,
you have an electrical problem....
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| posted on July 20th, 2008 at 07:41 PM |
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I suppose i should ask, is there any part on the motor that shouldnt be sitting on the trolly as a load bearing point?
-Marc
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| posted on July 20th, 2008 at 10:20 PM |
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yeah I put on a slab of wood for da donk 2 sit on...
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I have a few I have made over the years, but the best one I have has 4x 130mm swivel casters which are bolted to a length of 40x40 angle iron that I
bent into a 'U' shape (I cut wedges out of the corners and welded them back at 90ยบ).... It work perfectly.... The sump sits in the formed angle
iron frame and the trolley jack can be slipped under the engine with ease...
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here is the valve spring compressor
to take the valves out...
Excellent tool
My Son bought it from eBay a while back..
Lee
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If anyone wants, I can take a pic of my lazy mans type4 engine/transmission trolley v.2.1
It has the integrated features of jacking and wheeling.
My second topend job was done with v.1.1 which was scissor jacks bolted to a big bit of ply with castors on it.
The third was done with v.1.0 initially (until it twisted and collapsed in a heap with the drivetrain on top of it. Ahem) and 1.1 with added
structural rigidity.
It is a three wheeled design. Two wheels on the engine end and one castor on the transmission end. Two scissor jacks support the moustache and one
cradles the transmission. They all have 'special adapters' on the top. Ie chunks of metal welded to them to extend and make them capable of stopping
the drivetrain from slipping off.
If it weren't for my idiocy it would have made reinstalling everything simple. But I forgot that the bellhousing mount needed to be aligned to make
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I use a pallet trolley. Very easy to roll around, has a very low height when down and lifts 2-300mm.
I have found it very good, especially on the kombi to lower the motor and GB in one unit. You can pick them up cheap if you keep your eye's open.
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General_Failure chuck a picture up always god to see everyones setups.
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wen i used to work on the kombi, i was always pullin v8 in and out so me n a few mates just stole an ikea trolley and used that to roll engine under
the ass of the bus,
works pretty sweet.
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Daily driven beach cruiser
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