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 1303Steve
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| posted on December 8th, 2008 at 04:28 PM |
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EJ22 differences
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Down the track I would like to fit a EJ22 to my daily/sons car.
I read in a technical journal that there was different power outputs in different models, does anybody know what's the most powerful model?
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| posted on December 8th, 2008 at 04:50 PM |
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Nope But I can happily say there is bugger all in it. I have fitted Gen 1,2 and 3 and you would not notice. There is a bit of differece with the later
JDM ones from what the Subie Guys tell me but I have one in my Bus and it feels like any other.
I would get a Gen 2 AUD market as they are cheapish and readily availible.
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| posted on December 8th, 2008 at 11:02 PM |
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Hi Brad
So what year is a Gen 2 AUD
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| posted on December 9th, 2008 at 10:26 PM |
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Hi Brad
I found the information again, the differences aren't that big, that's if the info I have is correct.
EJ20 from a 89-94 100kW @ 6,000 and 189Nm @ 4,800
EJ20 from a 94-99 94kW @ 5,200 and 190Nm @ 4,400
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| posted on December 10th, 2008 at 02:53 PM |
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In Feb 2008 we got a WRX ej20t half cut $1395 It even come with a neat bumper with fog lights in the spoiler so you guess they be cheaper???
In my RTA spec sheets it says
1996 Liberty sed Capacity 2212 98/ 5600rpm
1998 " " " 1994 92/5600rpm
1998 " " " 2457 115/5600RPM
1998 STI " " 1994 206/6500RPM
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| posted on December 11th, 2008 at 10:35 AM |
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posted by 1303Steve
Hi Brad
I found the information again, the differences aren't that big, that's if the info I have is correct.
EJ20 from a 89-94 100kW @ 6,000 and 189Nm @ 4,800
EJ20 from a 94-99 94kW @ 5,200 and 190Nm @ 4,400
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You've just quoted EJ20 figures not EJ22 as per your OP.
You'll notice a difference between a 20 & 22, but it's not that much.
I run a 20 and a couple of mates have 22s. A 22 pulls stronger & is noticeable in a van
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| posted on December 11th, 2008 at 01:45 PM |
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Hi
Oopps I meant EJ22
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| posted on December 30th, 2008 at 03:01 AM |
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Ian , what turbo does your motor have ? TD04 or TD05 ?
does it have ally or steel front A arms ?
I soon tell you what you have
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| posted on April 5th, 2009 at 11:19 PM |
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Ian ?
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 04:28 PM |
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hope you havent been hanging by the balls waiting for that answer
Steve i found all this out in my reading up
89-94 100KW @6k 189Nm @ 4.8k
95-96 94KW @5.2k 190Nm @ 4.4k
97-99 98KW @ 5.6K 193Nm @ 4K
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 07:28 PM |
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LOL
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 11:31 PM |
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Hi
No Joel, Squeak, my balls turned blue and fell off LOL.
I'm seriously considering selling all the 1776 stuff I have and fitting an EJ22, I would most likely come out in front.
I keep looking on Ebay to see what cars with EJ22s are going for, thought I might buy a complete car and sell the rest.
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| posted on April 7th, 2009 at 05:26 PM |
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thats the way i was initally going to go
gen1 libs can be picked up with scruffy bodys but running well for around the $800 mark
i was lucky i dont have to take the whole car but i was able to take anything i needed off it
it can be hard to sell off the left overs
hes got good prices on the rest of the cars bits but no takers on anything else yet cept the headlights
im keeping accurate cost records of the project so ill be interested to see the final cost to me once its in running and after selling my 1776
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Is a body worth nothing to sims/wreckers?? surely you can get something for a shell? must be alot of plastic on subies if not...
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 11:15 PM |
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You would
d be lucky to get $20.00 for a shell now days
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 11:23 PM |
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scrap metal prices are down the crapper at the moment
took us months to get rid of the old nut silo out at the farm even tho it was 3 tonne worth
none of them would even come get it cos prices are so bad
dropped from $200 per tonne to $40 so its understandable why its hard to get scrap metal taken away atm
i didnt get squat for the bugs i got rid of last year
i was just happy to have them gone
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 12:29 AM |
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Murderer 
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 07:37 AM |
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Hi Steve and other interested parties,
The main differences between EJ22 engines is in the engine management system.
The core engine is the same between 89 and 96, after 96 the engines got short skirt pistons and solid lifter valvetrain. This is arguably better but
the pistons tend to be slappy due to the short skirts and questionable clearances. The valvetrain is definitely better as a common EJ22 malady is the
hydraulic lifters pumping up the valve springs causing a grinding halt.(this is really the fault of aged valvesprings but it doesn't occur with the
solid lifters just the same).
The engine management side of things is more important.
89-91 EJ22 engine has 3 plugs on the right hand side of the manifold(when looking at the front of engine). This indicates a series one engine. The ecu
in these models is 8 bit and inferior to the later models. The wiring is also overly complicated for no reason.
91-93 EJ22 has 2 plugs on the RH side of the manifold. This indicates a series two engine. These have a 16 bit ecu and simplified wiring system.
94-96 EJ22 has all ecu plugs at the back of the manifold bolted to the bellhousing on the LH side. This is a much better system that is faster,
simpler and better in everyway to the previous two. This is always my recommended system. I will only use this system if I do a conversion, be it into
VW or Brumby/other.
96-98 EJ22 uses a revised system to above. The wiring pinout is changed to be common with all other manual trans ecu's of the same age. This can be
handy if a change to EJ25 is planned in the future. Other benefits of this ecu is it is faster again. It has much faster tracking of the 02 sensor so
can be better on fuel economy.
The con of this ecu is they are not that common as they are only used in a manual trans vehicle(the auto equipped vehicle has a PCM type control
system that incorporates ecu and trans control, I will not use these in a VW application). Because they are rarer I default back to the previous 94-6
model as they are far more common and MT and AT ecus are the same.
This is just EJ22 specific info, there is a whole bunch of differences in Turbo engines and EJ20 and EJ25 engines also.
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 08:20 AM |
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thanks for that info jzk, thats helpfull info to know
so you can use an EJ22 from any gen lib and just change over the intakes??
Simon the real murderer was the person that chopped the roof long time ago
and the 75 was left for dead in a wrecking yard long before i got it
it still lives on..... well the gearbox and part of the floorpan in a bontrike
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 08:39 AM |
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Yes you can swap the manifolds between the engines and use the preferred ecu. I also do this with late model EJ25 sohc engines because the SG forester
engines are very common but the engine management is not good. I use the manifold and engine management from the 99-03 Liberty on these because they
perform much better and are not OBD2 so aren't plagued with ridiculous fault codes all the time. There are many ways to skin the cat.
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 02:24 PM |
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Lads , just a bit of a run down who jzk25 ( AL ) is at the following link .
http://amauto.com.au/about.html
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