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 niejls
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 06:48 PM |
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 06:52 PM |
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id be up for a copy pls if poss
i have an orig spiral bound 70s relic and im scared now to take it to the shed
any help would be appreciated
thanks paul
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 08:20 PM |
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as per previous just pm me the answer and i will link you.
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| posted on April 13th, 2009 at 08:27 PM |
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or if you just want to down load a copy off the net with out having to jump through somebodys hoop , just go to demonoid.com search for it &
get it ... its on there for free for who ever wants to download it.
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| posted on April 15th, 2009 at 04:20 PM |
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Hiya All,
I'm not at all familiar with Australian laws and regulations regarding copyrights. However I am aware that most countries do respect and abide by
international agreements regarding the rights surrounding intellectual properties. The circulation of PDF copies of Muir's work does sound like a
copyright infringement.
And I have had a inside view of the other side of this equation. My daughter used to work for Avalon Travel Publishing. ATP owns the rights to
Muir's work. I'm seriously doubting that anybody at ATP would sanction or tolerate this. On the other hand, ATP is a publishing company that
focuses on travel related literature. How they came to own "The Idiot Book" is a story in itself. Anyway, the Muir book is a bit of a stepchild in
the organization. ATP really doesn't know what to do with it.
Even so, remember that you can expect to get burned if you play with fire.
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eijeiy
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| posted on May 14th, 2009 at 04:39 AM |
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hi can i have a copy of the book it'll really help me with my VW thanks |
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| posted on May 14th, 2009 at 11:15 AM |
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Just buy one second-hand on Ebay - do a search on 'VW Muir' or 'VW Idiot'. You can get one for less than $20. This will be far more useful and
practical than a pirated PDF version - which you would have to print off anyway to use in your workshop. Have you priced inkjet or toner cartridges
lately?
Better still, if you are a member of Club Veedub Sydney, you can borrow a copy from the club library for a month, for free.
The Muir book is ok but it's not the best manual for VWs. Buy the factory 'Bentley' manual.
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| posted on May 14th, 2009 at 01:47 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bookwus
Hiya All,
I'm not at all familiar with Australian laws and regulations regarding copyrights. However I am aware that most countries do respect and abide by
international agreements regarding the rights surrounding intellectual properties. The circulation of PDF copies of Muir's work does sound like a
copyright infringement.
And I have had a inside view of the other side of this equation. My daughter used to work for Avalon Travel Publishing. ATP owns the rights to
Muir's work. I'm seriously doubting that anybody at ATP would sanction or tolerate this. On the other hand, ATP is a publishing company that
focuses on travel related literature. How they came to own "The Idiot Book" is a story in itself. Anyway, the Muir book is a bit of a stepchild in
the organization. ATP really doesn't know what to do with it.
Even so, remember that you can expect to get burned if you play with fire.
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Mike,
As a layperson untrained in law, my interpretation of the Copyright Act 1968 as amended, Section 43C it is permissable to reproduce a book [that you own - see section 1 a] for private and domestic use. In this instance providing evidence of ownership and then obtaining a single electronic copy I
think meets the intent of the Act. However, just getting a freebie copy I believe is in contravention of the Act.
I don't know about the others, but I copy the relevant procedure from the book onto A4 so I can take it to my workshop to work on my bugs. This
keeps my book from getting filthy and destroyed. Before I got this PDF I used to bend & shove my book on my a-i-o printer to make a photocopy of
the relevant pages - which obviously causes damage to the book. Now I can just hit the print button and not shred the book. When I finish with the
(by now) oil & grease covered pages, I just bin them. These copies I believe comply with Section 43B of the Act (Temporary reproductions of works
as part of a technical process of use)
Mind you, if I have mis-interpreted the act then let me know and I will delete the pdf - and go back to mashing my book.
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volumex
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| posted on May 14th, 2009 at 01:55 PM |
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The Samba always has a few for sale. Saw one earlier today for US$12.
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Phil74Camper
The Muir book is ok but it's not the best manual for VWs. Buy the factory 'Bentley' manual.
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I think for the common maintenance work, the Muir book is heaps simplier to understand and apply than the Bentley manual.
I haven't seen many Bentley manuals for the early 50/60's in Australia.The early manuals I have seen were the Scientific manuals (The blue cover,
the green cover and what appears to be a really early brown cover one). Did the Bentley manuals come some time later?
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Phil74Camper
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| posted on May 14th, 2009 at 02:12 PM |
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Bentley Publishing bought the licence to print the official (US-spec) VW factory workshop manuals. I have a copy of several early 1960s factory
manuals, that came in large blue snap-ring folders. The Bentley manuals were cleaned-up, re-sorted versions, published as 700-odd page soft-cover
books. But they are US-based so they reproduce US-spec workshop manuals. All versions are still available, including 1952-57 Beetles, and early
Kombis. Expensive, though, at $100 and I personally would NOT use them in the workshop! Great collector's items to read first, though, and keep in
pristine condition on your bookshelf.
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/isbn/9780837603896/index.html
Yes the general Australian-produced manuals of the time were Scientific Publications, which later became Gregory's manuals. They were written in a
very technical, almost military style - no 'hey groovy man' stuff you find in Muir. But they got the job done. We have most of them in the Club
Veedub library, as shown below when I made a new cabinet to put them in.
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Bookwus
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| posted on May 15th, 2009 at 12:23 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by volumex
Mike,
As a layperson untrained in law, my interpretation of the Copyright Act 1968 as amended, Section 43C it is permissable to reproduce a book [that you own - see section 1 a] for private and domestic use. In this instance providing evidence of ownership and then obtaining a single electronic copy I
think meets the intent of the Act. However, just getting a freebie copy I believe is in contravention of the Act.
I don't know about the others, but I copy the relevant procedure from the book onto A4 so I can take it to my workshop to work on my bugs. This
keeps my book from getting filthy and destroyed. Before I got this PDF I used to bend & shove my book on my a-i-o printer to make a photocopy of
the relevant pages - which obviously causes damage to the book. Now I can just hit the print button and not shred the book. When I finish with the
(by now) oil & grease covered pages, I just bin them. These copies I believe comply with Section 43B of the Act (Temporary reproductions of works
as part of a technical process of use)
Mind you, if I have mis-interpreted the act then let me know and I will delete the pdf - and go back to mashing my book.
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Hiya volume,
Oh hey, do know that it was not my intent to rain on anybody's parade. My knowledge of international agreements pertaining to the ownership and use
of intellectual materials is very likely far less than your own. As my previous post stated, I am aware that such agreements exist and Australia and
the USA are very likely participants in such agreements.
I am solely coming from the position that I do not want to see anybody getting burned because they might be unaware of these agreements and the
resulting potential for an unwanted and undesired surprise.
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| posted on May 15th, 2009 at 02:15 PM |
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As you can see from the rest of the thread, we really appreciate this book, and are only giving the PDF version out to people who can prove they have
the original book form. Like myself I consider my original too precious to have down in the garage, so I use the PDF version to print out the pages I
need when doing a specific task, or when browsing on the laptop.
No one here should be using the PDF without having the original.
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| posted on September 1st, 2009 at 11:38 PM |
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I own a hardcopy of the idiot book. is it sitll possible to get the pdf version? |
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| posted on September 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 AM |
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Can i get a copy |
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| posted on September 2nd, 2009 at 03:18 PM |
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posted by eraser
if you want it PM me the title of chapter XII and i will hook you up
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| posted on September 9th, 2009 at 10:24 AM |
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Hey I went to this site and nothing was there. Can you help? |
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| posted on September 9th, 2009 at 08:20 PM |
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ok once more for the people out there who are slightly special..
If you WANT THE PDF... and HAVE THE PAPER BOOK
PM (aka Private message) me with the TITLE of CHAPTER XII
I (aka me) will then PM you a link to it.
-Marc
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I recently found 68 squareback, with dellorto carbs. It has very little body rust,runs(ish) and I am happily cleaning it up. I have a rapidly
deteriorating copy, and I would love to put what's left of it on the shelf... Thanks a million! This would be wonderful... |
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| posted on September 30th, 2009 at 03:44 AM |
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My father has been a VW nut all my life, but this is the first squareback I have come accross, wow! these seem even simpler than the beetles!... |
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| posted on December 10th, 2009 at 11:02 PM |
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This is possibly one of the most helpful books out there definatly helped me through some tough VW times, would love a digital copy to keep on file!
PM sent!
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| posted on December 23rd, 2009 at 01:49 AM |
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PDF Copy
Hey, a friend of mine and I share a copy of this book, and it would make things TERRIBLY more helpful if I had a Digital copy to look through while he
had the hard copy. If this doesn't mud the "Principles" waters too much, I would love a copy of that PDF.
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| posted on January 9th, 2010 at 02:07 AM |
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can you please send me a copy of that PDF? |
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i have that book tryed to sell on here nobody wanted it
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How long ago was that, I received my copy in the post yesterday, all the way from UK, I was starting to get worried as I paid for it back on 18th of
December but all's good now, nice and new, perhaps i should check the title of chapter 12 and apply.
I dream of a day when a chicken can cross a road without being asked for it's motive!
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| posted on January 20th, 2010 at 02:22 AM |
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Whoops. Hehe here I was starting to get befuddled that nobody replied to my request for the PDF, and when I come back here to post another reply I
noticed that I missed a few posts here about Chapter XII. Maybe I"m Blind, maybe I just jumped to the end of the books too quickly (Spoiler alert,
Harry Lives :P) Anywho, I'll get that chapter title for ya tonight, and as this is post #5, I can PM you when I get it. |
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jjwebb123
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i sent you a PM.
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with
courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show
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| posted on January 22nd, 2010 at 04:22 PM |
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PM sent
Cheers
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yt400pmd
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PM sent
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compaq1
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| posted on January 26th, 2010 at 01:23 PM |
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Most are Probably already aware of this but here is the john Muir VW Sounds site link
http://web.archive.org/web/20071206022126/http://home.arcor.de/silke.fokken/s...
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| posted on January 26th, 2010 at 04:57 PM |
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Hey Eraser can I send you the answer to get the copy?
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yt400pmd
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| posted on January 29th, 2010 at 04:02 AM |
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does anyone still have the PDF ?
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