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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 02:27 PM |
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Barrels to case sealent
I might be tearing my T1 engine apart soon for a rebuild. Is there are sealent to go between the barrels and case? What type? What about between the
case halves?
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 02:36 PM |
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I use an Avaition type sealant, Loctite # 3, its a browny colour n stinks, but always stays moist. Its a non hardening type
There a similar types at most auto shops.
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 02:50 PM |
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So this is the stuff to use for the case halves as well?
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 05:35 PM |
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Case halfs, push rod tube seals, rear oil seal.... anything.
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 06:21 PM |
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push rod tube seals,
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ummm..... i thought these were clean but dry? 
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 06:38 PM |
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what Dave says ,sticy ant poo stuff.
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 08:07 PM |
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Barry
Thats why yours leak.
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 08:56 PM |
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No leaks on my tubes dude 
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| posted on June 16th, 2003 at 09:47 PM |
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Hi
I always use Curil made Elring the VW factory gasket company. I never put anything on pushrod tubes seals either. Under no circumstances use
silicon.
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 06:53 AM |
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Raf
Yes Curilall ( spell) is another good one as it does not go hard. Its a very light poo brown colour n comes in a tube.
I just use a smear on the push rod tubes.
It dont hurt.
Let me know if you carnt find it in Mel n will send some down,.
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 08:06 AM |
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Its a very light poo brown colour n comes in a tube.
I just use a smear on the push rod tubes.
It dont hurt.
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 08:13 AM |
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No one has mentioned the barrel sealant
There is a hi temp silicone RPV? or something
and also a blue one.
Either way i didnt use the Locktite or Curilall(sp?) there, it was these other colour stuff
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 12:34 PM |
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Thank you all for the good advice
Dave, will let you know if I can't find it
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 12:36 PM |
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I use permatex on case halves and pretty much silicon anywhere else.
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 12:52 PM |
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I use permatex everywhere.
I don't like silicone, I found it leaks prematurely if used under the barrels. I found permatex works much better there. I also use it on push
rod tube seals.
The only place I found where nothing was the best is the cork rocker cover gaskets.
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 12:59 PM |
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Dont you just hate it when your bottle of permatex tips over and there's gluggy tarry crap on your bench, or even worse on your tools!
I wish I could find ANYTHING that would work on my POS dry sump pump! Always a constant source of leaks.
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 03:18 PM |
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or you take some with you in your toolbox, and it leaks in the toolbox.
I usually spill mine on the shed floor. it's pretty disgusting stuff.
Permatex 3H or something... Now renamed Loctite something as Dave described?
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 04:28 PM |
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Worse still when you get it on yr fingers,,,, n scratch yr face.. brown crap all over yr fingers n face.
Paint thiners get it of.
Dont use Silicone.
Hey Wes it used to be called Rolls Royce Jointing Compound, a few years ago. Dont know if Rolls had anything to do with the developement of it.
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 04:31 PM |
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Why not silicone?
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 07:06 PM |
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I found this out a long time ago. It BEADS or forms a bead when compressed if overused.
I used it to seal a fuel tank sender unit only a smear... and it beaded and eventually broke off.
I didnt have the stock fuel filter in the tank stand pipe so the silicone, was aloud to swell from the fuel form say about 1/32 Inches dia to about
1/8inches dia
Once it was this size it just some how sucked into the fuel line cause the car to stop running every now and then
Too some time to figure it out, but i suspect it would do the same with the engine if beaded say oin the base on teh cylinder barrells.
It would swell if contacted with oil and possible get sucked into the system causing blockages etc etc
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| posted on June 17th, 2003 at 09:15 PM |
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pretty sure it was on the old Total vw forum. One of the mass motor builders use to use it. Cant/wont remember who. Anyway it use to bead and break
off if the case.
From there it would get stuck in the oil galleries.
"Apparently" this motor builder had a significantly higher failure rate towards oil starvation.
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| posted on June 19th, 2003 at 10:15 PM |
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Funny, VW recommends High Temp RTV for the barrel-mating surface...
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| posted on June 20th, 2003 at 07:56 AM |
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Where did you read that?
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