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 colonel mustard
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 posted on March 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 PM |
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car scrappage scheme
I was at a mates house playing cars tonight, and a friend of mine was complaining about how crap her old toyota rolla seca is (every young person I
know complains to me because I used to be an apprentice  ) and that its got
little life in it. Them she brings up, that she "apparently" heard that the Gov might be bringing in a scrapping scheme. Has anyone heard about
this?? Or is it something that just floats the grape vine occasionally. She said that the scheme basically entailed "if your car is over 10 years
old, they will give you $3000 to scrap it". I must say I found this really quite sad, and I hope no young idiots throw in their VW or other classic
(like an rx7 or datsun) just cause it would be cool to have a CD player and air con in their new HyunGAY Getz. This would be a shame. The link below
is all I could find on the topic.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/AD96AF19A1BC9A2ACA257575001A2864
not good for the classics.
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| posted on March 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 PM |
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Hi
I didn't see the story but I heard it on a radio promo.
I think I heard that the greens were opposed to it, I guess because if we all got new cars all of sudden there would be lots of pollution involved in
making them.
If this scheme goes ahead where will all the old classic cars come from in the future? I remember when old Datsun 1200 & 1600s and old Corollas
etc weren't cool at all, now there is demand for them.
Steve
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| posted on March 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 PM |
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Ok for a rusted out old toyota-nissan-fiat-hyundai
This was done years ago in the UK...
I was told that many people cashed in their Beetles and Kombis etc.... plus other old rare cars that have all now disappeared...
It will definately make its mark on classic cars...
its not a good idea.... I don;t like it...
Pollution would probably drop... as newer cars have less pollution...
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| posted on March 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi
I didn't see the story but I heard it on a radio promo.
I think I heard that the greens were opposed to it, I guess because if we all got new cars all of sudden there would be lots of pollution involved in
making them.
If this scheme goes ahead where will all the old classic cars come from in the future? I remember when old Datsun 1200 & 1600s and old Corollas
etc weren't cool at all, now there is demand for them.
Steve
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heard about as much as you too Steve,but alas most modern classics later 70`s have already gone to the big wreckers in the sky 
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| posted on March 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi
I didn't see the story but I heard it on a radio promo.
I think I heard that the greens were opposed to it, I guess because if we all got new cars all of sudden there would be lots of pollution involved in
making them.
If this scheme goes ahead where will all the old classic cars come from in the future? I remember when old Datsun 1200 & 1600s and old Corollas
etc weren't cool at all, now there is demand for them.
Steve
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the early P510 [datsun 1600] imported from Japan had an independant rear suspension... Locally made 1600 didn't have this suspension...
cheers
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 06:46 AM |
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This is a fairly common scheme overseas - the USA has had an 'old bomb' scrapping plan for a number of years, and in Germany sales of new cars
increased by 10% when a similar scheme was started. VWs built since the mid-1980s are designed to be recyclable, and VW has built several dedicated
dismantling/recycling centres in Germany.
This is a news report from the ABC about the scheme being introduced here:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/03/23/2523278.htm
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 06:57 AM |
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I saw a big poster for this today at the train station....
http://www.donateacar.org.au/
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:03 AM |
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So whens the camper on its way? :-)
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:14 AM |
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this was on news.com.au yesterday, AND!!!!! the picture for the storey was a lowered ratty looking beetle...
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:20 AM |
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How many vouchers can you present per new car I wonder?
anyone want a 1000 for their car?
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:53 AM |
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Scrap metal dealers pay more $$ for VW's than just about any other car. My uncle had a huge clean out a while ago and didn't have to pay to get a
heap of old Splits,bays and a few beetles and type 3 taken away. Before everyone carrys on about scrapping cars these were either rusted beyond
recognition or were used as donor cars for rust repairs and had sections removed. anything that was salvagable was kept. The guy who came to pick up
the remnants of the cars said " I get heaps for these things so i'll take the lot for nothing".
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:53 AM |
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I saw a advert for the news talking about this scheme so they show cars driving on a busy highway a Kombi travels past the only old car shown "what
the ....
Ruddy you should give people with old cars $3,000 as long as they update them that's a better way to go.
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 09:49 AM |
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So it says if it has a resale value of under $3k, it would be considered under the proposal. I just see this as a way for us to push up our prices to
above $3k. Easily solved.
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 11:48 AM |
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it was on tele last night and they said the people that own the old cars wouldn't be the people that could afford to buy a new car anyway.
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 12:03 PM |
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This has never been implemented in the UK, some other Euro countries do this such as Spain and Portugal but there are still plenty of shitty old cars
on the road in the UK and a huge classic car scene.
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posted by 68AutoBug
This was done years ago in the UK...
I was told that many people cashed in their Beetles and Kombis etc.... plus other old rare cars that have all now disappeared...
It will definately make its mark on classic cars...
its not a good idea.... I don;t like it...
Pollution would probably drop... as newer cars have less pollution...
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 12:17 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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it was on tele last night and they said the people that own the old cars wouldn't be the people that could afford to buy a new car anyway.
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:03 PM |
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What these beuracrats don't understand about old cars is that most of us are installing either modern engines into them or fuel injection kits and
getting better performance and mileage than new cars, plus how much plastic is in new cars anyway, thats what is really using up most of the oil.
Aint no way i am cashing in my cars, i got me bug, a 71 DC, need an oval and a split then i will be happy to tell the cashers to F$%* off.
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:18 PM |
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This is great! I can buy 10 yr + ford lasers for a couple hundred, say $300 running and make $2700 profit on a car!
Who needs a job!
Buy a couple cars a day
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:28 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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This is great! I can buy 10 yr + ford lasers for a couple hundred, say $300 running and make $2700 profit on a car!
Who needs a job!
Buy a couple cars a day
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Pikey bastard, you like dags?
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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...anyone want a 1000 for their car?
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exactly, if the scrappage value is $5K. We have all become a little wealthier.
But I think it would be really stupid for our Gov to do this, because nearly ALL new cars are.... imported.
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| posted on March 24th, 2009 at 07:47 PM |
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Chances are if you drive a car worth less that $3000 then you either really like it or you cant afford to update.
Either way i doubt anyone will be scrapping the daily to go into debt for a new car in the current economic climate.
I wonder how much extra carbon emmissions will be created from the scrap guys clapped out diesel truck working over time picking up all these cars and
the crusher using more electricity.
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I dont think it will happen here. Aussies love classic cars too much. You just need to visit sydney on Australia day to see that. Who would have
thought there would be a toyota corona club? But there is.
It would destroy the cheap end of the car market. You wouldnt buy anything under $3K. You'd only be able to by rubbish for $3-4. I think that would
push up the reasonable cars to 6K. etc etc. The second hand $4k hyundai-ish market is huge. You can buy low milage reliable yet roughly treated
hyundais, mitsubishis, daewoos etc for $4k everywhere and unis are full of them.
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| posted on March 25th, 2009 at 08:01 AM |
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It's an MTA plan, not government.
Your not getting 3 grand, your getting a voucher for 3 grand off a new car.
The only ones to come out on top will be motor traders association members.
Well my friends are gone & my hair is grey, I ache in the places where I used to play.
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ringoschariot
This has never been implemented in the UK, some other Euro countries do this such as Spain and Portugal but there are still plenty of shitty old cars
on the road in the UK and a huge classic car scene.
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
This was done years ago in the UK...
I was told that many people cashed in their Beetles and Kombis etc.... plus other old rare cars that have all now disappeared...
It will definately make its mark on classic cars...
its not a good idea.... I don;t like it...
Pollution would probably drop... as newer cars have less pollution...
LEE
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So
If You have a car worth $3000 and trade it in for a new car..
Do You get $3000 for the car PLUS another $3000 from the MTA ??
I assume the car needs to be registered too...
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
| Quote: | Originally
posted by ringoschariot
This has never been implemented in the UK, some other Euro countries do this such as Spain and Portugal but there are still plenty of shitty old cars
on the road in the UK and a huge classic car scene.
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
This was done years ago in the UK...
I was told that many people cashed in their Beetles and Kombis etc.... plus other old rare cars that have all now disappeared...
It will definately make its mark on classic cars...
its not a good idea.... I don;t like it...
Pollution would probably drop... as newer cars have less pollution...
LEE
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[size=4]It May have been the republic of IRELAND EIRE..???[/size]..
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i'm pissing meself on where this original info has turned up from...wasn't ireland either mate...pish..
there is still a huge classic car scene in the uk,most of the older daily drivers,just simply fell into disrepair mainly due to the bastard salt that
is applied to the roads in the winter to combat ice/ snow .glad i'm away from that shit now...
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I assume the car needs to be registered too...
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I think for 6 months at least.
MTA are morons, or so i have found out.
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| posted on March 26th, 2009 at 03:23 PM |
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I cant see anyone taking this offer up. The reason people are driving crappy old cars is that they cant afford new ones. Even if they got a voucher
for $3000 where are they going to find the rest of the money?
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