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 colonel mustard
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 06:40 PM |
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Bad Idea?????? FUEL LINE
Ok. I Re-did my fuel line today. I used a great see through glass/chrome filter from classicveedub.com.au - Great service / great product. I also used
the genuine Fuel line from classic and new clamps from my local auto store (budget auto oxley) They aren't the usual style clip - they are alot
stronger and don't crush the fuel line in a bad way (the usual ones tear the rubber/fabric and make it ewwww). It was good to change the line back to
what it should be, away from bad all rubber too big crap.
As a result of this, I no longer have a filter in my engine bay (I know there are alot of people celebrating out there)!!! However......
This is what it ended up looking like in the rear section (above the transaxle). Is It possible for the C.V boots to hit the filter? Could I have any
issues with this??? The hose doesn't touch the exhaust, so I'm Fine there.... Just wanted to make sure I'm not going to die on the side of the road
cause I run out of petrol because my CV boot rips the fuel line and leaks all the petrol on the ground and then the fuel ignites and the car blows
up....... (tested by myth busters and wouldn't happen unless you were going slower than 5km/h or something stupid....)
I also have a plastic filter straight after the tank. So don't panic!
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 07:01 PM |
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mate rethink the area where you have it at the moment you can relocate the filter on the passengers side wheel wall there are clips that will let you
just clip the filter in they use them to locate pool cues on racks
that fuel line being rubbet through is not the answer but good luck
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 07:49 PM |
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yeah not the best spot old mate..
id move it if it was my ride..
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 09:46 PM |
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did you say glass chrome filter... ewww... and if you have a plastic one why have another?
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 09:54 PM |
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What's wrong with glass??? Move it? Put it at the front?
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 10:27 PM |
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 10:40 PM |
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Hi
I've heard stories of that type of filter unwinding and leaking.
Steve
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| posted on April 1st, 2009 at 11:15 PM |
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So move it??? Up front be better??? Do I need to run more than 1 filter???
I really thought I was doing a good thing by getting it out of the engine bay.... 
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 AM |
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Hey Jase,
problem with just having filter up front is that it only works filtering the stuff coming out of the tank, which is ok, but
remember there is still steel pipe-work going through the tunnel which can collect crud as well from rust, age etc.
So if ur going to do it properly, have two, but if you have one, towards the rear is better.
You can leave it in that location, but just need a slight adjustment.
Rather leaving it dangle precariously where it is, pop rivet two clamps on the underside of the rear compartment
(same clamps sparkies use to hold pvc pipes against walls) and hook the filter into it - you may need to use
a bit longer fuel line to reach that high, but at least its outta the way there.
It may get the odd stone, mud thrown at it, so keep an eye on it - a plastic one may survive longer.
At least where its located, if something ever happens, there is no risk of fire.
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by colonel mustard
I also used the genuine Fuel line from classic and new clamps from my local auto store (budget auto oxley) They aren't the usual style clip - they
are alot stronger and don't crush the fuel line in a bad way (the usual ones tear the rubber/fabric and make it ewwww).
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I found some good clamps in the garden irrigation section of bunnings. They are your usual worm drive type but they use a thumb screw to tighten.
Most damage to fuel lines from worm drive clamps is from the tendancy to overtighten because you have all that leverage via your screwdriver.
With the thumb screw type, hand tight is enough and it makes changing hoses and filters really easy. The thumb screw also provides a good anchor point
if you want to wire your carby and fuel pump to stop the brass tubes from popping out.
I've been using these clamps for a few years now without any problems.
Regards,
Matt.
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 AM |
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yep, glass, rocks, near wheels don't mix.
I had put mine up front, but i did have a new EFI fuel line running through the tunnel. I also used a metal EFI type filter.
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 PM |
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Iv fixed it....!!! just got one piece of genuine fuel line where the filter was, and the filter is back in the engine bay.... on the left side, near
the intake manifold. 
the front one needs doing soon, but the line is bad up front so the tank will need to come out / be cleaned and sealed to the body etc etc.
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 01:31 PM |
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the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 01:36 PM |
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You fixed it by putting a filter in the engine bay? 
Look right underneath where the fuel line runs. Hello mr distributor.
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 01:59 PM |
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the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
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Hey Dirk - you obviously like fires in the engine bay you pyro-maniac 
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 02:09 PM |
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why would you want two?
put the nice looking chrome/glass one in the bin then go get one steel one z199
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 02:18 PM |
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Sure. I love putting my money in the bin. Think before you make a stupid suggestion.
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 02:37 PM |
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sorry mate but it's no worse then the idea of running a glass/chrome put it under the car then put it back in the engine bay and still have one up
the front
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| posted on April 2nd, 2009 at 05:19 PM |
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next to the gearbox is a good spot
like jedidan said it can catch the rust that comes from the solid line thro the tunnel
my advice is run a pressed metal EFI one
theyre not as vulnerable to rocks and would filter better than that glass one anyway
theyre designed for 40 odd PSI in EFI cars and last for 30,000km intervals
good move getting it out of the engine bay not only is a it a fire risk but being on the pressure side of the pump is just stupid for several reasons,
1 is they dont work as well cos the pump can force crap thro the paper filter, they are designed to be on the suction side and 2 is the added weight
of it on the fuel lines bouncing around have a bad habit of pulling the brass fittings out of the carby and the fuel pump with the early bolt together
style
had this happen to a mates bug on the way to valla once
not nice getting out and seeing the hot engine soaked in fuel
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 06:13 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
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Would you state some of the many problems it can cause??
I always fit filters before the pump for two reasons, it filters the fuel going through the pump, and you dont have a filter under pressure...
New fuel pumps come with instructions to fit a filter on the intake side of them.
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 09:32 AM |
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just zip tie it to like the h/brake cable outta the way of the fast spinning thing n it will be sweet, 1 plastic filter will do the trick..
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 11:25 AM |
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Its sorted now! Im going to go hard lines after I have the car painted next year. SS or something sturdy with decent sized filters (metal ones
....Fomoco ones probs)
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 04:08 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by xornge666x
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posted by DirkHedde
the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
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Would you state some of the many problems it can cause??
I always fit filters before the pump for two reasons, it filters the fuel going through the pump, and you dont have a filter under pressure...
New fuel pumps come with instructions to fit a filter on the intake side of them.
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there arent any problems with it
in fact when Lbugs started in 73 VW actually got rid of the in tank gauze and fitted a clear plastic filter in the hose between the tank and the
chassis
some ppl dont even know about them, when i pulled the tank from my blue 73 Lbug it still had the genuine VW filter and crimp on VW clamps. never been
changed
lets just say it was blocked!!
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 07:51 PM |
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That would be insanely blocked....
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 08:13 PM |
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i cut it open out of interest and yea u could say that
strangely tho it had a whole completely intact dead fly in it amongst other assorted crap
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| posted on April 6th, 2009 at 08:20 PM |
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hahaha thats hillarious. the fuel proabably preserved it for 10 years! surprising it still ran with a filter like that.
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| posted on April 8th, 2009 at 07:29 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
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posted by xornge666x
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posted by DirkHedde
the fuel filter should be after the pump. a filter before the pump can cause many problems
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Would you state some of the many problems it can cause??
I always fit filters before the pump for two reasons, it filters the fuel going through the pump, and you dont have a filter under pressure...
New fuel pumps come with instructions to fit a filter on the intake side of them.
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there arent any problems with it
in fact when Lbugs started in 73 VW actually got rid of the in tank gauze and fitted a clear plastic filter in the hose between the tank and the
chassis
some ppl dont even know about them, when i pulled the tank from my blue 73 Lbug it still had the genuine VW filter and crimp on VW clamps. never been
changed
lets just say it was blocked!!
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Yeh I have seen those geunuine filters before too. Amazing how long they last. It also shows that the fuel was probably better quality up until fairly
recently....
I know there is no issues with a filter before the pump, I am more curious what basis there was for such a statement offering someone advice!!
I have probably fitted hundreds of filters in between the pan and engine line, and never had a problem, or fire!!!!
I have removed probably just as many from engine bays!!
In my opinion those glass filters are too heavy for that location, and road debris could also cause an issue.
The brass fittings in the carb, and less often the fuel pump should also be checked like you said.
I like to peen them lightly just to tighten up the connection a little. Cant be too careful when it comes to engine fire...
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by jedidan
Rather leaving it dangle precariously where it is, pop rivet two clamps on the underside of the rear compartment
(same clamps sparkies use to hold pvc pipes against walls) and hook the filter into it - you may need to use
a bit longer fuel line to reach that high, but at least its outta the way there.
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At least where its located, if something ever happens, there is no risk of fire.
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Do you mean the _n shaped ones or the _n_ ones? I have a similar problem in my '75 bay which is about to get exacerbated even further by moving the
electric fuel pump further forward. Its current setup has the fuel line sitting on the starter, and the pump hard up against the head tinware. It's
only for moving it in the driveway if you are wondering.
There is always a chance for fire.
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