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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 04:13 PM |
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"Bolt Ons"
Hi guys, just lookign for some quick advice.
looking for abit more power and trying to eliminate the signature bug engine note from my standard 1972 1600 bug
What are some quick, reasonably easy mods to achieve this somewhat?
Im looking at upgrading ignition system, new exhaust and hopefully new carbs
Speaking of which, because this is my first vw can someone let me know if im running single or dual port?
A pic is below, hope that helps
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 04:53 PM |
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First of all you have a dual port
See the rubber bits that connect to the cast aluminium end castings on your manifold?
You will see they splay out to 2 ports as opposed to a single port that has......... well ....... one port
As for bolt ons - read here
http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles/mods.htm
A VW doesnt need much to make it go good
Handling will beat power most times
make sure your motor is well tuned and concentrate on handling
A set of lowered struts with heavier springs
a set of type 3 rear torsion bars and new gromments
KYB gas shocks on the back and say some Boge inserts on the front
decent rubber on widened rims
new bushing and coupling and a short shift kit for the gear stick
Adjust steering box or replace if you have to
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 04:58 PM |
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its a dual port engine
easiest and best bolt on are
electronic ignition system
quite pack exhaust system
check all yr tinware is there as well
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 05:08 PM |
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Also related to the tinware all being there, best to connect the hoses from the fan shroud to the heater boxes down underneath... or at minimum plug
them up to keep the airflow under control.
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 05:12 PM |
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yep as per above
It looks liea n OLD engine of unknown qty
you dont want to be giving it too much other wise you may be re building it very soon
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 05:20 PM |
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thabnks for the quick replies
First off, since the photo i have connected the hoses
Im not looking for a heap of power, just something to keep up with normal traffic abit more and hopefully a nice exhaust note at least
What exactly does "tinware" include?. between where the hoses connect i have another circular hole which i can see the floor underneath
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 05:23 PM |
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Also what does the short shift kit comprise?
My gear changes at the moment dont take a whole lot of effort and there was a gene berg shifter in place when i bought, is there a chance i might
already have one? is there a simple way to check?
Thanks
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 06:32 PM |
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well all the engine bay tin is in place by the looks
quiet pack mufflers dont sound anything like a stock exhaust and give alot better flow
nice deep crisp note without being loud
my thunderbird quiet pack is actully quieter than a stock pea shooter muffler
as dave said electronic ignition, gets rid of those dinosaur points
twin carbs offer a nice improvement even on a stock engine
short shifts just reduce the gear change throw by lifting the gear stick up which changes the pivot point
havent clapped eyes on a berg shifter for years but pretty sure they are quickshift by nature.... as in its part of the assembly
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 08:12 PM |
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grab yourself an EMPI exhaust system changes to a nice deep rumble 
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| posted on April 9th, 2009 at 08:38 PM |
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thunderbird >>>>>>>>>> any empi exhaust.
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 08:39 PM |
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u could get ratio rockers which increase the lifts of the valves
now standard lifts is about .250" at the cam at the valve is .275" (1.1:1standard rockers)
with the 1.4 rockers lift @ valve is increased to .350". don't bother with the 1.25 ratio
however with most ratio rockers you'd require shorter pushrods and stronger unless u can get them from some dude as a kit.
also while carbon silicon insulated spark leads are friendly to your radio and such copper leads deliver slightly hotter spark compared to carbon
leads (carbon leads usually have around 5k Ohm resistance depend on the length) you already have 5k Ohm in the rotor anyway.
alternative from electronic ignition u could probably get high energy ignition or CDI from jaycar
i saw a CDI kit for about $20 this CDI will work on vw engine but you'd need to do a bit of rewiring
well not really an alternative since you can have cdi triggered from electronic ignition
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 08:53 PM |
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ratio rockers are wasted unless you really improve on the breathing
theres so many varibles with each engine like deckheight etc so shortened pushrods have to be tailoured for each indiviual engine so its not really
possible to just sell kits
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 10:44 PM |
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Berg shifters are available in 40% and 60% reduction in throw/travel. Do you want to sell it?
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| posted on April 10th, 2009 at 11:10 PM |
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Hahaha. i know how special that chrome thing in my hand is :p
Now im even less willing to part with it now that i know its short shift
I have heard the same with the rocker. 1.25s relly arent worth it and 1.4 need different sized rods
At the moment im thinking electronic ignition in conjunction with new 009, a new exhaust (iv seen the "gt" i think it was, on cvd for about $300)
and hopefully a twin carb set up, but i really dont know where the prices start for those, as iv mentioned in another thread i can get my hands on
some 45mm dellortos but they are way to big.
I dont want a big increase, but id like a nice sound and abit more pull
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 07:38 AM |
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those GT mufflers are your base product and dont really offer any worthwhile gains
for $300 it better be the stainless version
best all rounder for stock to mild engine has always been the quiet pack, been that way for decades
nice flow and sound good without being loud
ground clearance is the only problem with them if on a lowered car
just steer clear of any with the Empi label on
build quality is atrocious, fit is even worse and they start falling apart pretty quick, but thats to be expected with the price they sell for
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 10:12 AM |
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I would wait with the oo9 until the carbs come along, as they can be a pita with stock carb, but definately a good 4-1 extractor system, ie. not a GT
or Monza, the hide-away my choice is it is less visual/ugly, it puts the muff up under the guard, altho needs to be removed for routine valve adjust.
Go see Westi (westside mufflers), he'll sot you out, s/s and all.
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 11:19 AM |
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Hmmm...looks like a converted semi-auto motor. Does the carby say H30/31 on the float bowl (side facing left as you look at your piccie)?
If it's a 34 Pict 3....I'd call it a converted donk because of the carb and vacuum spigot on the centre section of the manifold.
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 01:02 PM |
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any pics of this quiet system? iv heard alot of them
And price?
Exhaust is first, im not in a hurry for ignition or carbs
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 02:46 PM |
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Could just be a semi-auto manifold ctefeh. My manifold has the vacuum port as well. (Also has same ignition leads and chrome airfilter. Had to look
twice to make sure it wasn't a picture of my engine )
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 03:03 PM |
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Dont suppose your still on red p's like me? :P
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 03:06 PM |
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Not since August. Got my Ls, red Ps and green Ps all on my birthday. (Someone was eager)
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 03:10 PM |
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Damn u must be younger then.
I got my reds at 19 and got them suspended for 6 months
Terrible, learnt my lesson though, i drive like an old woman now
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 03:14 PM |
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Well we will see how long I last when i get this 1916 in 
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 03:15 PM |
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Want to trade for a nice little Gene Berg? :p
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 03:18 PM |
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Sure. You send me the Gene Berg and when I recieve it I'll send the engine off (Don't hold your breath)
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 04:13 PM |
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are these the quiet systems?
and any approximate pricing?
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 04:18 PM |
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and yes i im aware it says quiet on both , im just making sure :P
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 04:24 PM |
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Yep, thats them.
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 04:28 PM |
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I just realised those one say to 71, mines 72 im guessing they would stock a similar item?
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| posted on April 11th, 2009 at 05:26 PM |
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yeah thats them
badly worded add, will fit all 1300 and bigger bugs but only type1 kombis which stopped end of 71 in the US which is were george got those specs
from
i run the single quietpack but the thunderbird version not empi
main thing is they hang down pretty low
sorry its not a good pic but u can see theres not much in the way of ground clearance
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