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posted on October 8th, 2009 at 12:19 AM



nice :) gearbox is going to be awesomeeeee!
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posted on October 9th, 2009 at 06:12 PM



good luck with it ,ive had one of richards bell housings in my race car for 3 yrs now :)
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posted on October 9th, 2009 at 10:21 PM



update again, just bellhousing stuff, not sure if anyone here is interested, have a link to here on VWKD now though for the umm... wet types

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/Image0213s.jpg
bellhousing size differences

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/Image0219s.jpg
wrong arm... gotta find one ive never seen before, its more square & has a ball on the end & its a VW/AUDI part, waiting on email back from RJES about this

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Me thinks this is going to need a blanket around it, & possibly some shrouding around the slaves bracket

Oh & if theres no pic's tomorrow feel free to hurl abuse my way, the other 1/2 has volunteered to help drill the mounting holes for the guards, the battery for drill is on charge, i have the bits & files, shiny stainless bolts & washers around here somewhere too...




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posted on October 9th, 2009 at 11:33 PM



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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 01:20 AM



good stuff. keep to photo's happening :)
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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 01:21 AM



also, sorry that i can't be of use in the next 2-3 weeks, assessment is just hardcore currently. but next month will have a few more spare days.
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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 12:00 PM



http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/IMG_5041s.jpg

lunch break :D




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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 02:45 PM



lunch? just finish it! ha. which pan are you using currently>?
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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 04:21 PM



pan? what pan, its a flintstones mobile currently :D



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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 05:41 PM



the clutch arm is just a t3/t25 one
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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 06:07 PM



Yeah, Richard let me know earlier this morning. Thanks anyway though. I've got no idea where the hell I'm gonna find one locally. Will find out monday. Wish me luck!



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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 10:22 PM



did you go with a new input shaft aswell?
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posted on October 10th, 2009 at 10:48 PM



certainly did :tu: no point doing things by halves now is there?

considering what else is going into the gearbox it would of been pointless to leave the standard splined one in there
the idea is bulletproof & made to look like its supposed to be there not just butchered into fitting :)




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posted on October 11th, 2009 at 12:21 AM



cool,i normally try anything breakable for richard just to see if i can,and i havnt yet:lol: and ive tried it with a 4puck prodrive sti rally clutch.
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posted on October 11th, 2009 at 05:25 PM



Hi there guys, good to see another project on the way.

I havn't done a manual subaru convertion, just want to know why you can't use the standard input shaft? is the bellhousing to long?

Keep up the progress.




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posted on October 11th, 2009 at 06:54 PM



hi aaron, main reason is the one richard makes is far stronger, & the subaru shaft is splined to suit the subaru clutch disc.
Therefore, the whole flywheel/clutch disc & pressure plate is all factory (or aftermarket) subaru bits, designed to handle the abuse they will be given :D
currently have 1.5 aeros fitted perfectly, shame that they will have to be taken off again though, im being anally retentive on fitting them nicely.

On a side note, the apprentice(girlfriend) now hates fiberglass :lol:

me on the other hand... meh im a vehicle builder for a living! i love this shit haha!




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posted on October 12th, 2009 at 05:57 PM



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Hi there guys, good to see another project on the way.

I havn't done a manual subaru convertion, just want to know why you can't use the standard input shaft? is the bellhousing to long?

Keep up the progress.


standard input shaft is fine you just need to use some thing like a t3/t25 friction plate
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posted on October 24th, 2009 at 10:43 PM



Paid a visit to DB, the core box i have was pretty damn good, awesome news to start the weekend, floorpan should be finished its surgery monday arvo- that was even better news for the weekend, and surfers around indy/supergp/v8supercar/oh shit we need to keep the tourists happy with racing for 4 days weekend is mental, drifting up at the broadwater was good, free too :D clubs.... well, this car would be finished if clubs didnt exist :lol: should be some nice lookin things going on in this thread soon :D

PS thanks DB for those lights, with bonus guards attached :D far better quality than the repro shit u get these days :tu:




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posted on October 25th, 2009 at 09:04 PM



Have you found anything to wrap round the turbo? cause i may just may be able to get you an old exhaust blanket of a jet engine at work, they have to be replaced periodically the rotory head at work wrapped one round his exhaust in his race car and lowered cabin temps by a lot. I will see what i can do can't promise anything though.

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posted on October 25th, 2009 at 10:33 PM



turbo will possibly be moved to a different location in future,(its VERY tight on space with this gear in a bug, just mocking things up as i get them currently, whats the blanket like? I have a source for exhaust wrap for the rest of the piping, if you needed any we could trade ;)

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posted on October 25th, 2009 at 10:49 PM



anyone want to see my box? wide open, not pink in the middle though, very empty for now, thankfully
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/Image0266s.jpg
Yes i know the bench is filthy but other than weekends when im not working theres only a few mins a day to be in the garage :sniffle:
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/Image0268s.jpg
I think that nose cone mount is going to take a long walk off a short bridge, going to need the extra inch or 2 that it takes up...
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/Image0273s.jpg




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posted on October 26th, 2009 at 08:53 PM



update.... floorpan back from customveedub, right when they said it would be done :D good price too :D shame about the rain on the way home, test fitting of everything within the week,

Oh, does anyone need a roof off a standard bug to do a choptop or something?




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posted on October 27th, 2009 at 07:27 PM



Sick days do wonders, even if you can only see out one eye! (seriously! it wasnt intentional, just made the most of an unfortunate circumstance :))

Rear adjuster, front goes up & down with 2 spanners so why not make the rear the same?
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/Image0277S.jpg

It worked, original concept on SBO/GL forums for those interested but for RHD people, we can have hydraulic clutch masters fitted in almost the original location, standard superbug brake mc makes it even easier again
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae239/STIDUB/Image0278s.jpg

Rolling shell, gotta make sure everything will fit up properly before taking it all apart again to pretty it up, Not looking forward to doing that AGAIN so this may be a rat look subie bug for longer than planned
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posted on October 27th, 2009 at 10:55 PM



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Looking good, what brake master is that?

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posted on October 27th, 2009 at 11:12 PM



24mm kombi, fair bit more fluid capacity in it than the 19mm bug one, bug is really small in mounting space than the kombi though, unless your intending on needing the extra fluid to drive bigger calipers, stick with the bug MC to make it easy, body has to be trimmed/notched to clear the mc though, but a stitch weld on an edge is fine to replace a spot welded seam in my books, hows yours coming along steve?

The fun part will be playing with the pedal mounts & pushrod pivots now :crazy:


on a side note, only one brake light switch can be fitted in that position with the lines coming out the RHS, the clutch MC is way too close for the switch on the rear circuit, the fronts also need the terminal bent up a fraction to clear the floorpan sheetmetal, no huge drama but worthy of mention all the same.




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posted on October 27th, 2009 at 11:40 PM



Hi

What size are your calliper pistons, I ran 996 rears on the front and Boxster rears with a stock 19mm cylinder on my yellow bug OK so I will do the same again.

I have been doing a bit of fiddling with my bug, just got my new axles ordered form the states, I'm mucking around relocating the Subaru engine mounts now, I have a bugs@5speed sump which interferes with the stock mount location.

The pivots will not be a biggy I don't think, just a clevis for the clutch mounted directly on the pedal. With the brake pivot I was just going to replicate the stock pivot, but relocate it behind the new brake master cylinder location.

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posted on October 28th, 2009 at 03:44 PM



pivot for the clutch will line up right on the pedal shaft from memory, & as for the brakes, all thats needed is to move the standard pivot/pushrod bit over an inch or so, will take pics when its all done, one of my pedal clusters is sacrificing itself for this though but should be simple enough to copy if anyone wants to & im pretty confident it will all work just like factory, perhaps better.

Steve, do you have pics of the sump attached to your engine? im tempted to make a sump that works with the original mounts, i think im asking too much to support the engine & box off 8 box case studs so would like to have a little more support for the engine itself, im a long way off that part though

piston sizes are 40's & 54's from memory, all the theory is in my toolbox at work, got sick of taking the laptop to work so will try to remember to grab the figures tomorrow, basically i went with the kombi because the fluid capacity of the calipers combined was only a few cc's short of the maximum for the bug MC, kombi on the other hand had approx 1.5-2x capacity, worst case senario i swap back to the bug mc but it should be ok as is

Again ill try to remember to confirm all those figures tomorrow, its been awhile since i did the maths




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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 08:28 AM



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I'm going to work on the sump and engine mounts soon, maybe today, gotta mow the lawn and few other things first. Laying under the car yesterday I worked out that I can move the Subaru mounts and forward and have them sitting under the heads near the exhaust manifold with a bracket going back to the stock Subaru mounting point.

I was thinking your Master cylinder might be a bit big, Jak is using a stock 19mm with his Nissan front brakes and they have 4x45 mm pistons, but you could fit stock 1500/76 bug master cylinder back in that area if you need to.

When you reposition the clevis for the brake master cylinder there would be an opportunity to vary the pedal ratio, like a mechanical brake booster. With a bit of thought the clevis position could be adjustable so that the ratio could be altered to suit your master cylinder, if its too stiff you could move the position down to give better leverage etc.

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Below is what did before I got my alloy sump to use the stock Subaru mounts, slightly repositioned.

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I was thinking your Master cylinder might be a bit big, Jak is using a stock 19mm with his Nissan front brakes and they have 4x45 mm pistons, but you could fit stock 1500/76 bug master cylinder back in that area if you need to.

When you reposition the clevis for the brake master cylinder there would be an opportunity to vary the pedal ratio, like a mechanical brake booster. With a bit of thought the clevis position could be adjustable so that the ratio could be altered to suit your master cylinder, if its too stiff you could move the position down to give better leverage etc.

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Precisely why the 10mm drop in height for the centerline of the brake mc shouldnt matter, should be softer pedal, just need to make sure the pedal doesnt hit the body before the pushrod stops working, clearancing the body over the weekend, then hopefully lowering it down onto the floorpan for some test fitting, getting closer to the engine i want now too, only getting a trickle of double time these days, not like when i was saving for the gearbox unfortunately:crazy:




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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 06:55 PM



Hi

My double $ went a few years ago, boy I miss it but it gives you more time on the bug, only with less money, cant have every thing I guess.

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