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 Craig S
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| posted on October 23rd, 2009 at 02:59 PM |
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Engine Building - What tools are required?
Hi All,
As per another post around here somewhere I'm going on an engine building adventure. At present I only possess your standard household hardware
tools, spanners, screwdrivers, drills etc. Clearly more stuff will be required, but what? Could you please let me know what you think are the minimum
requirements for the job, and the nice to haves. Also any recommendations for good places to get the right gear in western Sydney (Blacktown area)
would be great.
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| posted on October 23rd, 2009 at 03:36 PM |
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ring compressor ,tension wrench engine stand if possible metric spanners
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| posted on October 23rd, 2009 at 03:51 PM |
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If you want a crankshaft oil seal install tool you can have one if you come and pick it up.
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| posted on October 24th, 2009 at 08:29 PM |
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a press or some other method of removing the distributor gear off the crankshaft.
flywheel lock.
a type one engine? the gizmo socket tool thingo to put the oil filler/breather on with.
shitloads of clean cotton rags.
swear jar
bandaids
beer
400 cans of degreaser. Getting things clean is the worst part of the job.
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 07:06 AM |
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patience and cleanliness
Customer service is not dead in Australia.
Always after HAZET & MATRA & VW factory tools
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 07:57 AM |
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Amazer, you forgot 'pizza' and my personal favourite, corn chips
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 10:51 AM |
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Obviously you will need a "Hot to" book.
I have no idea if it is a good reference book for engine rebuilding, but John Muir has a section in his "How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive" book
that may be useful.
Apart from a set of good metric ring/open ended spanners and sockets and the usual other tools, I'd wait until I found that I needed special tools,
before I bought them.
Take lots of pictures to show how things should be together, before you pull them apart.
Take lots of notes about whats's what.
Also lots of tin cans to keep the little bits together.
Good luck.
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 11:26 AM |
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Thanks guys,
I have a beer fridge in the garage, a tripod to sit the camera on, more ice cream buckets than you can poke a stick at, a stereo, a nurse to bandage
me up, a workshop manual, Muirs book, a current UltraVW series on engine builds, and the other things I'll have to work on organising.
What could go wrong 
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 11:45 AM |
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I'm about to get off my ass and put mine backtogether :P so far havent needed any special tools but i did get the crank and case machined for me so i
wouldnt have to pull the gear off etc.
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 12:00 PM |
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Well I can say you DONT need a ring compressor or a flywheel seal installation tool unless they're free....waste of money. ( I've seen more broken
rings using a ring compressor than not)
How to Hotrod a Volkswagen Engine is THE book to get, dated but so are our engines, crank gear puller and a 1"dial indicator/magnetic base if you
plan on more than one engine, otherwise all you need is a quality torque wrench and a really good set of eyes and an AVD connection. But you got
that
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 02:49 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by matberry
Well I can say you DONT need a ring compressor or a flywheel seal installation tool unless they're free....waste of money. ( I've seen more broken
rings using a ring compressor than not)
How to Hotrod a Volkswagen Engine is THE book to get, dated but so are our engines, crank gear puller and a 1"dial indicator/magnetic base if you
plan on more than one engine, otherwise all you need is a quality torque wrench and a really good set of eyes and an AVD connection. But you got
that
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Matt! You know and I know you don't need that tool for the oil seal but each time someone on here cries out for one I have offered one but no
takers.  There's 6 of them there for me to use as weights when
I'm laminating bits of thin timber. Why have I got 6 ?? I
actually had 8 as someone wanted one so I made a few extra while I was at it. May as well have one for myself if I get to build another motor but in
reality, there's always a suitable bit of wood or steel plate or etc etc around the workshop to knock it in!
DH
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 03:02 PM |
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Sorry dude, maybe offer them as useful hold down weights ???
They do a nice job so not discounting their use, just prioritising in this case for someone with limited tools.
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 06:52 PM |
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I think he's only about half an hour from me Matt so if he wants to collect a few tools which could be usefull it's not much out of ones life.
There's even a 3/4" socket drive for a 3/4" diameter length of bar if he likes to wait for an hour. Better to help the newbies to VW rather than
have them waste their time and money getting others to do some of the simple tasks. Remember it's better to give than to lend as it ends up costing
the same. 
DH
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 07:02 PM |
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Yes mate, with you all the way. It's only a few tools , many can be hand made, that make the difference.
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 07:38 PM |
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Thanks Matt and DH,
I do have the 'how to Hot Rod VW engines', in fact I have two, as someone who used to play with them a long time ago heard I'd bought a Dub and
sent me his old copy after I'd bought a new one!
DH, thank you very much for your offer, I'm sure Gwendolyn (the Beetle) would love a trip out to sunny North Richmond (some nice roads from there),
and I'll take whatever help I can get, because I'm sure going to need it.
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| posted on October 25th, 2009 at 08:29 PM |
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That's ok Graig. You are welcome to drop in. Not next weekend as I'll be up at Tamworth (again!!). I still talk to Type 1s even though I learned
to count to (Type) 3 in 1967!! 
DH
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 10:29 AM |
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Hi All,
While I should have perhaps guessed this, torque wrenches come in different ratings from 1Nm through to about 330Nm. What's the maximum torque I'm
going to need??
Thanks
Craig
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 10:35 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Gwendolyns Master
more ice cream buckets than you can poke a stick at
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Dont go washing stuff with petrol or turps or kero in icecream buckets - glass and metal are good for washing stuff in. I found this out the hard
way..... they stain and weaken concrete, especailly turpentine.
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 12:04 PM |
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you need one of these to tighten your nuts
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 12:20 PM |
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I'd respond to that but for fear my wife might read this! 
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 02:27 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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That's a little spanner compared to the ones we have at work!! LOL
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 04:08 PM |
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internet connection - Great for:
* Streaming music
* Keeping the kids away from your tools
* Asking questions
* Inspirational pictures scrolling as your screensaver
* Contacting workshops
* Staying out of the bosses hair
I have wireless so the laptop is often taken out into the shed. Grooveshark is fantastic for playing music while working on the car.
http://www.grooveshark.com
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 11:23 PM |
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Your best tool may be a wallet filled with cash or a credit card! 
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| posted on November 13th, 2009 at 11:30 PM |
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You'll need a torque wrench no more than 50 ft/lb. Obviously the gland nut or axle nut are over this at 217ft/lb, but this is out of reach for an
engine assembly torque wrench without a torque multiplier.
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| posted on November 14th, 2009 at 01:08 PM |
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Thanks guys, well after about 12 years, my el cheapo (and broken) socket set can be retired, replaced by the finest that Mr Sidchrome can offer.
Likewise I now have a torque wrench that goes up to 120ft/lb. I think the tool shop saw me coming.
My wallet is currently whimpering in a corner. I just have to make sure I get good use out of it all now so I don't get in trouble from the better
half.
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| posted on November 15th, 2009 at 07:56 AM |
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pls tell me you didn't buy a NEW sidchrome set. sidchrome is not what it used to be. 
BTW, I'm more than happy to take one of those books off your hands.
See you later on this morning.
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| posted on November 15th, 2009 at 10:50 AM |
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Hi Pete,
Book is yours in exchange for a longish term lend of your engine stand. Less stuff to move for you 
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| posted on November 15th, 2009 at 04:53 PM |
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As Matt says you don't need lots of special tools,they are nice to have but a lot of patience and attention to detail works much better,good luck
with the rebuild and if you are unsure just ask.Rose thats magic but I'm not sure.We used to call them apprentice controllers cheers Les
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| posted on November 15th, 2009 at 05:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by matberry
Well I can say you DONT need a ring compressor or a flywheel seal installation tool unless they're free....waste of money. ( I've seen more broken
rings using a ring compressor than not)
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gotta agree with Matt
i couldnt say how many vw engines ive knocked together over the years but not one of them have i used a spring compressor on
and the block of wood trick as per my seal thread hasnt failed me yet
also unless the oil filler is leaking or the stand is all gunked up theres no reason so remove it either
those nuts holding them on are usually tighter than a nuns.......
probably the most speicalised tool i use is a 3/4 drive breaker bar on the gland nut
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