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 kombi_kid
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| posted on June 30th, 2003 at 10:05 PM |
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Sanding Vs Paint stripping
hey
what do all u critics recommend i do to get rid of my paint on my fasty?
should i sand it back with a fine grit sand paper or paint strip it???
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| posted on June 30th, 2003 at 10:45 PM |
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I have no idea, but I'm finally in the same boat. 
I was watching The Block (fine quality perv time) on the weekend, and the gay guys swear by the Black and Decker Mouse, which I notice was also
heavily advertised that night. I wonder if that'll work on body panels.
Andrew
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 01:14 AM |
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I prefer sanding, only because i dont know how paint stripper works!
If you are restoring, sand Blasting is actually not that expensive, however you need to strip everything and get rid of some of the residual sand
after.
Josh
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 posted on July 1st, 2003 at 05:54 AM |
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you can buy an acrylic pad, fits on your sander polisher, and it will strip the paint off back to bare metal. you have to be carefull not to let the
panels heat up though, so moving around a lot helps. better than sandpaper, and faster. they come in purple and black. the black ones are softer and
take more push to remove the paint. you can do small bits at a time or as i have done the complete roof of my kombi in one arvo and then rust
preventative and then put the primer straight on. seemed to work ok. cheers, fish
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 07:46 AM |
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hey
i got my spliity bead blasted and it cost me a grand!
sounds good fish! i might sandblast is and around all the seems.
cheers
rhys
p.s. keep the suggestions coming!
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 08:35 AM |
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guys stipping is easy get a brush paint the stripper on wait 3-5 minutes then using a paint scraper, scrape off paint and throw away. simple but
messy :thumb |
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 10:26 AM |
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why are you taking the paint of the fastback? stripper first then a light sand. easier and better for the lungs.
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 10:30 AM |
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OH yeah to make it less messy put a tarp under the car  :thumb thats what i
do also put tape over the door - body gaps ( where the door meets the body) and other spots like that, IF your not taking everything out of the car
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 04:24 PM |
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hey
i dont know weather ill take it back or not its just that the last coat that was on it they sprayed about 1mm of bog all over the car?!?!?! and there
is about 3 coats of paint?
paint stripper is fairly expensive though?!
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 07:29 PM |
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There are a lot of methods.
Paint stripper
Messy if the paint is thick acrylic lacquer as it melts. Enamel is easier as it 'wrinkles'. original paint is thin so again it is relativley
easy.
Cams is a good high strength brand. Putting plastic over the paint stripper an d leaving it for half an hour helps it to work better.
Sanding.
Only a viable option if there are no signs of any problems with the paint structure.
Abrasive wheel
Like a half inch thick wheel of scotchbrite material. You can use it in a drill and on lw speeds on panels it is very slow. More effective in door
jambs and inside panels. Expensive $10 a wheel
Bead blasting
Good for outside panels. Make sure blaster does do vehicles for restoration, not just a side venture. Sand should only be used in door jambs or
unerneath or the pan.
You can use a combination of these. You may wish to use only paint stripper on the flat outside panels and blast the inners.
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| posted on July 1st, 2003 at 09:31 PM |
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if there is cracks in sections of bog that is cracked do u reacon for me to take it all the way back?
bead blasting is to exy at the moment!
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 posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 05:25 AM |
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the only trouble i have found with sandblasting is that when it comes time to spray you find all the sand that has got into the seams and places where
you wouldn't think it would go and it gets blown out all over your new paint work and then it's a major sanding back job. really gives you
the smits, so the sanding with the pad worked better for me. The paint stripper worked well but still had to clean down the panel after and the cost
of the stripper wasn't cheap. only took me 4 pads to sand the entire kombi back to original metal, inside and out. it's only when you start
sanding the bog you realise that whoever had it before you did a bodgy job on the cutting out of the rust. Cut it all out if possible and weld a new
bit in, but treat around the patch as it will rust on the weld later. cheers, fish:bounce
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this is me bus
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 05:39 AM |
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bugger, the pics were too big again. have to call andy and get him to put them on for me. i'll try first myself again. fish
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 07:49 AM |
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Andy to the rescue
Here's Fish's pics.
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 11:34 AM |
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was ur car sprayed under that portable carport fish ??? |
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 04:08 PM |
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hey
i have taken out all the rust it just seems that before the people who owned it before me sprayed the whole car with bog?!?!?! i wont do the inside as
im keeping the same could and its all right! i think ill sand it back to bare metal as im changing it from acrylic to 2 pac.......
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 04:43 PM |
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i think u sould go back to bare metal to since ur changing from accrilic to 2pac |
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 08:18 PM |
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thanks Andy. yep, sprayed her under the tarp thingo. neibours loved it !! he he he
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 09:13 PM |
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Hey Fish,
Looks like a good job.
It is satisfying if you can do it yourself Yeah.
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| posted on July 2nd, 2003 at 09:48 PM |
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I ended up using paint stripper and went back to the bare metal. it had been about four different colours during its life and took weeks to scrape
off. All the doors and removeable bits were taken to the sandblasters and they also primed it. Much easier to get sandblasted but costs a lot more,
mind you we went through about 8 litres of stripper and it made a hell of a mess. In the end it was worth taking back to the metal so you can paint it
in whatever you like and also get to know every inch of your VW. |
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| posted on July 3rd, 2003 at 11:47 AM |
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couldnt agree with you more there "if ur gonna do it at least do it right, THE 1ST TIME" |
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| posted on July 4th, 2003 at 07:43 AM |
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or in my case the 3rd time
cheers
rhys
p.s. anyone else have any other methods?
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| posted on July 4th, 2003 at 04:18 PM |
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Hey fish, what happened to the pop-top? Did you replace it with something else, can't see it from the pic
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| posted on July 11th, 2003 at 06:04 PM |
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Go to a paint shop and look at a "wizz wheel"
air tool even better visit a panel shop and check one out in action , very effective just sand untill you have a stsble surface some of the new
primer undercoats are universal any once they are on you can finish anyway you like.
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| posted on July 11th, 2003 at 11:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vanderaj
I have no idea, but I'm finally in the same boat.
I was watching The Block (fine quality perv time) on the weekend, and the gay guys swear by the Black and Decker Mouse, which I notice was also
heavily advertised that night. I wonder if that'll work on body panels.
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Who exactly were you perving on in the show?
And the black and decker mouse is shit!!
Its for hobbies- Mine lasted 1 week of sanding a wooden chair.
Do not buy one if you want quality
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| posted on July 12th, 2003 at 07:01 AM |
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I used an angle grinder with a wire wheel for all the seams, worked a treat. That is a sweet yellow split, painted under a tarp u said!
Is that acrylic? Must have a few coats of clear over the top!:bounce |
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| posted on July 18th, 2003 at 10:33 PM |
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best way to have striped off the old paint is with a speed ajustable buff machine with a 12 inch flexi pad with a 36 grit sandpaper stuck to it...
paint striper is ok but if not cleaned of properly it can cause a bleed through when re-painted. as for sanding... just takes to long. to rip the
paint of a kombi with the set up i suggested would take about 2/3 hours all up to bare metal just be sure to wear a good dust mask... |
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| posted on July 18th, 2003 at 10:47 PM |
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Here is the go:
1. Mask off the area to be paint stripped.
2. Scratch up the old paint with 36 grit.
3. Brush on some quality paint stripper.
4. Scrape off old stripper.
5. Wash down area with thinners and a rag.
6. Use a clean and strip disc to clean up metal.
You will get a top quality result doing this. Those little mouses are shit for body work.:thumb
[Edited on 18-7-2003 by decked dubby]
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| posted on July 19th, 2003 at 09:04 PM |
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thanks guys gives me good stuff to ponder over until i get around to painting/stripping my VW's!!!
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