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 dekkerboy
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| posted on December 14th, 2009 at 02:38 PM |
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1915 should I shouldn't I
Whats your opinion i know their are other threads but still.
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colonel mustard
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| posted on December 14th, 2009 at 05:53 PM |
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Should you, or should you not try and use better spelling?
more info needed re: engine? Do you have $6000?
what do you have now? what is your budget and/or other options.
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 06:59 AM |
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Oh my god, seriously Colonel Mustard, don't be such a rude arrogant person! How many times do you need to be told to think before you type, your
opinion isnt required for everything. Since when do you have the right to give people lessons on spelling, not everyone is perfect. Great of you to
pick on a 14 year old!
Sorry dekkerboy, once you start talking motors buddy, you start talking money. Well cars full stop mean money, but performance means money. There is
absolutely nothing wrong with a 1600 which you can then build on. I don't know what your money situation is like, or if you're getting help, but
start small and work your way up. One thing i've learnt is that you don't have to have everything at once (it's nice that's for sure), but work
your way up.
There are plenty of threads on here which will help you with info and give you a fair idea on the expense and labour required.
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 09:04 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by colonel mustard
more info needed re: engine? Do you have $6000?
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Why do you need $6k ?
I had my Ragtop motor built for under $4k including ALL parts and labour 
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 09:09 AM |
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4k craig, well why dont u explain to dekkerboy how u did it so he doesnt have to spend 6g's..........
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colonel mustard
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 11:57 AM |
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14 year old's can't drive. I think that says enough. I am not a rude person, Thanks Ash, but clearly I am, as you seem to always be correct.
Craig, Are you being serious?
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 12:59 PM |
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yes craig is serious, i was able to source all the parts for 1916 long block and twin 36idf's for under 2K with careful spending, granted most parts
were 2nd hand but were reconditioned by a professional and the bottom end was completly balanced
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 01:32 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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14 year old's can't drive. I think that says enough.
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Yeah it says he's got two more years free time to build his engine
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 02:07 PM |
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Exactly, 2 more years to gather information and put it into practice, and who's to say it's not financially achievable for him?
Keep it real buddy, and do some research. Plenty of helpful people here who won't bag you for asking reasonable questions.
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 06:32 PM |
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The whole idea was to get an opinion and thankyou for your imput. I will probably keep the stock 1600 because the pistons and barrels are good and
i'm fuel injecting it anyway so it will still pack a punch hopefully. I will do the cam, lifters, heads and valves anyway.
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| posted on December 15th, 2009 at 06:41 PM |
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dekkerboy: From what I've heard; Fuel injection won't give that much more power. More-so smoother power
and less tuning. You may as well have the case bored for 94mm pistons and cylinders while the case is apart for the cam change.
Gunna get a much bigger power boost from a cam change with a 1915.
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| posted on December 16th, 2009 at 01:16 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by dekkerboy
Whats your opinion?
i know there are other threads but still.
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Hi
Personally, I wouldn't... an 1835 is all You need...
ratio rockers and a good carburetor or two...
extractor exhaust system..
My Son has all this and can spin the very wide back tyres very easily...
but as Ash said, it all costs money... and lots of it...
a 1600 is OK to start with....
I have a single port 1600 and although its a semi automatic beetle, it goes fine...
to make it accelerate faster , all I need to do is put smaller wheel and tyres on the back...
many VW owners used to fit 14 inch and even 13 inch wheels and tyres to their 1200 beetles years ago...
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| posted on December 16th, 2009 at 09:51 AM |
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Ok what bore size is 1835. I would like to go a little bigger with engine size because i am building baja. But i dont really have the money for a
1915, so i might see what im going to do. I just bought another baja and manx in a ebay auction, so hopfully one engine is already modified.
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| posted on December 16th, 2009 at 10:18 AM |
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Don't go 1835 unless you go with the thick wall 92s.
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| posted on December 16th, 2009 at 11:03 AM |
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Dekker
have a read of this site
It will answer a lot of your questions
http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles.htm
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on December 17th, 2009 at 09:35 AM |
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Thanks i will have a read.
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| posted on December 20th, 2009 at 03:21 PM |
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A well built 1916 is the way I'd go..Had a couple of 1835's & A 1641 years ago, they were ok, bigger cubes is better as it allows more
flexibility with heads, cam etc.
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| posted on December 20th, 2009 at 03:49 PM |
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bigger is not always better
use thick wall 92's or 90.5
don't buy second hand junk
anything used always has some issues
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| posted on December 21st, 2009 at 09:01 PM |
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Ok so i will probably still stick to what i got for now, i have got a motor that i think is modified so i'm having a look tomorrow thanks.
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| posted on February 8th, 2010 at 08:09 PM |
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Lee im interested in how much this motor cost?
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| posted on February 8th, 2010 at 08:32 PM |
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makes me laugh when people start talking big bore motors on a budget....
oh i'm on a budget so ill go 1776 or 1835 cos 1916 is too expensive....
it makes no feking difference, the cost to machine a case and heads for 1776 or 1835 is no different to 1916
and even the P&C kits are pretty much all the same price
just forget the 1835 option unless your big on dud engines
thinner walls cause that many problems that 1776 eninges will out live and out power ay 1835s
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| posted on February 8th, 2010 at 08:37 PM |
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Lee im interested in how much this motor cost?
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MORE than what joel is selling his 1776 for.
why go 1835 when some many people say they are not good.... just so you can prove them right...
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| posted on March 12th, 2010 at 04:45 PM |
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Hi Dekkerboy,
If you keeping the stock size crank (69mm), choosing the displacement is the "cheap part" of your "hot"engine.
Selecting performance heads, carbs, headers, cam ignition system, blue-printing, and top engine builder is the expensive part of building your
engine.
I'm a little bias, but the "older guy" with the moustache and never ending stories, who resides on the NSW Mid-Norh Coast builds pretty good
performance engines.
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| posted on March 12th, 2010 at 06:07 PM |
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dekkerboy, that last sentence zayus wrote, is soo soo true... p.o.b.j.o.y......p.o.w.e.r....
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| posted on April 2nd, 2010 at 06:01 AM |
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dekkerdude why not build a turbo 1600 like stanleys. can be done cheapish and a great way to learn then u can go and beat the ricer boys in a humble
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| posted on April 2nd, 2010 at 07:27 AM |
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Awesome information perfect for someone like me planning on some engine upgrades in the future
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| posted on April 2nd, 2010 at 07:45 AM |
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Dekkerboy, is your head spinning from all the contradictory answers yet ?
Stick to advice from people who have experience. Search the posts history from would be advisors you will see what I mean. There is a wealth of
knowledge here, you just need to filter the BS to find it.
I had a 1916 many moons ago, and was happy with the increase in power over stock, however its performance wasnt what it could have been. If I had
better advice at the time, and paid more attention to the total combination rather than just displacemet it could have been better.
The key is not in displacement, but the sum of the parts chosen. Carefully matched parts, assembled correctly will result in a long lasting engine
with good power.
There are many High power 1916s on here with power figures originally believed unachievable. This is not just because of displacement, but because
they carefully selected components working together. Read this on Hellbugged's Berg engine build for inspiring attention to detail !
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=38560&page=1
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| posted on April 2nd, 2010 at 07:47 AM |
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dekkerdude why not build a turbo 1600 like stanleys. can be done cheapish ........................
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ask stanley if thats true... i think you find its not. to have a 1600 that can stand forced induction, isnt cheap. sure you could just stock up in
stockers and change it out once a fortnight if you want.....
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| posted on April 2nd, 2010 at 07:51 AM |
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dekkerdude why not build a turbo 1600 like stanleys. can be done cheapish and a great way to learn then u can go and beat the ricer boys in a humble
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you can definatley get some good power from turboing an engine, its not always cheapish but you really have to be in tune with whats going on with the
engine
its really easy to grenade a force fed motor with simple things like a bit of lean out or to much timing under boost
a stocker can handle decent boost with the right setup and long as your not reving the tits off a stock bottom end the cope well
i got some pics somwhere of what happened to my frankenstein v1.0 after being over boosted froma dodgy wastegate
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| posted on April 2nd, 2010 at 08:02 AM |
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only problem you may run inot is the new p plate laws.
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