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| posted on January 3rd, 2010 at 04:17 PM |
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vw 54
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1954-VW-BEETLE-IMPORTED-FROM-GERMANY-30Hp-DELUXE_W0QQi...
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| posted on January 3rd, 2010 at 05:05 PM |
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link didn't work for me?
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| posted on January 3rd, 2010 at 05:34 PM |
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works here
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| posted on January 3rd, 2010 at 06:09 PM |
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hmmm not on my iphone.. big mac here I come
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| posted on January 3rd, 2010 at 07:37 PM |
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I'm looking at that header & thinking.........whats happened to DAVE, or, what has he done now LOL
Step up to get out !!!
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| posted on January 3rd, 2010 at 09:53 PM |
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How can it be a full German import if it's got an MKA number?
Martin and King Australia assembled Complete Knocked Down kits, I've never heard of them being involved in direct imports.
Unless they imported one or two for quality control purposes when they first started assembling kits?
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| posted on January 4th, 2010 at 06:40 AM |
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as per above
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| posted on January 4th, 2010 at 07:40 AM |
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Yes the first VWs were imported into Australia (by Regent Motors Melbourne) in October 1953, as fully built-up cars. They were sold only in Victoria.
The first NSW sales were in April 1954 after their first public showing at the Royal Easter Show. They were still fully imported, complete cars.
The first CKD assembly by Martin & King did not begin until June 1954, and it would have taken a few months to spool up. Only 1,746 VW sedans were
sold in Australia in 1954.
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| posted on January 4th, 2010 at 09:10 AM |
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Phil,
How do you know so much, its frightening.
Kev
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| posted on January 4th, 2010 at 09:38 AM |
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You find lots of interesting VW stuff in old newspapers from the '50s and '60s. Bankstown Library has the SMH on microfiche - the Easter Show
supplement from 1954 has some cool VW info.
But I don't know everything - I thought this post was about Dave Birchall (VW54)
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| posted on January 5th, 2010 at 09:06 AM |
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Ebay ad says,
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GERMAN IMPORT FOR "VW MOTORS" IN NEWSTEAD BRISBANE IN 1954
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Maybe it was "imported" from Melbourne to Brisbane.
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Matt.
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| posted on January 5th, 2010 at 08:47 PM |
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I've had several '54 models with the VW Motors Newstead badge. They were all CKD kits, with the MKA number in the spare tyre well. However the
actual ID badge still says 'Made in Germany', I guess as they were only assembled in Australia.
To my knowledge apart from an early batch of '53/early '54 models imported whole, the only 'early-model' (pre '67) german assembled cars in
Australia are private imports and karmanns - ghias and beetle cabriolets.
Angus
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| posted on January 6th, 2010 at 07:55 AM |
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Yes the first VWs sold here were fully imported, but once CKD assembly started to ramp up in the second half of 1954, fully imported VWs were phased
out. The CKD kits were made in Germany, hence the ID badge, even though they were assembled in Melbourne. It didn't take long for some
Australian-made parts to be incorporated, such as batteries, tyres and glass, and local content gradually increased through the late 1950s. The first
steel body panels were locally stamped in 1959.
VW Australia did have an 'overseas delivery scheme' for Australians travelling abroad, who might want to buy a car in Germany then ship it home.
Thus there were a very few fully imported pre-68 German cars sold here after 1954, but only a tiny number. Yes the Ghia was always fully imported, but
didn't go on sale until 1959 (and ended in 1969). The Beetle Cabrio was never sold here, apart from a handful of examples imported in 1961 for the
Melbourne Motor Show.
VW Motors Newstead was the VW Distributors for the state of Queensland, as well as being the largest VW dealer in Brisbane. They were independently
owned until 1969, when they were purchashed by LNC Industries and became a subsidiary of Volkswagen Australia Pty Ltd. The same thing happened to
Western Motors in Perth, and Light Motors in Adelaide. Lanock Motors in Sydney were always owned by LNC Industries. In Victoria it was Regent Motors
until the Clayton head office took over the operation and created 'Volkswagen Distribution Pty Ltd', which looked after Tasmania as well. This was
bought by LNC Industries in 1968.
Martin and King was originally a railway workshop owned by Clyde Industries, and was contracted by Regent Motors to assemble the VW CKD kits in the
early days. The firsrt 'Volkswagen Australia Pty Ltd' was created by Regent Motors in 1955. After Heinz Nordhoff visited Australia in 1957 and
committed to a large expansion plan, a new company called Volkswagen Australasia Ltd was created, 51% German owned, and they purchased Martin and King
outright, together with the Clayton property, from Clyde.
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| posted on January 6th, 2010 at 08:09 PM |
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I have been talking to the ebay seller and they now realise it is not a full import.
I have invited them to check out AVD and advised to not be in too big of a hurry to sell to get the best price.
Regards,
Matt.
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| posted on January 6th, 2010 at 08:24 PM |
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you buy this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-1954-OVAL-WINDOW-BEETLE-in-VGC-driveaway-2day_W0QQi... before you before you buy that old rusty
rat
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| posted on January 6th, 2010 at 11:10 PM |
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Yes Ian,
He is unfamiliar with VW's and didn't know what he had and based his ebay ad on some quick internet searches.
He has withdrawn the ebay auction after learning a bit .
I have given him some advice to look here for someone to check out the rust for him and explained how much is available to revive a VW compared to
other cars of the same age.
Might just reel him in to keeping it and catching "the disease".
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Matt.
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| posted on January 7th, 2010 at 09:43 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Matt Ryan
Yes Ian,
He is unfamiliar with VW's and didn't know what he had and based his ebay ad on some quick internet searches.
He has withdrawn the ebay auction after learning a bit .
I have given him some advice to look here for someone to check out the rust for him and explained how much is available to revive a VW compared to
other cars of the same age.
Might just reel him in to keeping it and catching "the disease".
Regards,
Matt.
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boooo! i was waiting to buy that car.... oh well... have to look for another one now 
VW - helping put oil back into the ground for over 60 years |
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| posted on January 7th, 2010 at 04:15 PM |
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Adam,
Don't give up, he may end up advertising it on here!
Regards,
Matt.
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| posted on January 8th, 2010 at 02:02 AM |
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is a 55 as good as a 54?
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| posted on January 8th, 2010 at 06:03 AM |
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depends wether its early 55 or late 55 as that when a lot of changes were made
the car listed is really a 53
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| posted on January 8th, 2010 at 06:55 AM |
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Yeah CKD assembly means that these cars were a bit of mix of parts - crates of parts would arrive (12 crates held enough parts for 8 cars) in batches,
shipped to Port Melbourne and then freighted to the Clayton plant by train. Then they had to be unpacked, organised and assembled. Not like in the
USA, where all their cars were imported fully built up and finished from Germany.
Australian Beetles were upgraded to the 36-bhp SAE 1200 engine in March 1955. Read a more detailed history of VW in Australia at http://www.clubvw.org.au/Australian%20VW%20history.htm
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| posted on January 8th, 2010 at 03:25 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by polak
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Matt Ryan
Yes Ian,
He is unfamiliar with VW's and didn't know what he had and based his ebay ad on some quick internet searches.
He has withdrawn the ebay auction after learning a bit .
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boooo! i was waiting to buy that car.... oh well... have to look for another one now
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Argh, that sucks mate Gutted for you.
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posted by Matt Ryan Don't give up, he may end up advertising it on here
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Probably for a lot more though?? 
I used to get this all the time when i collected records. You'd get someone who didn't know much about what they had advertising stuff on Ebay at
£4.99 Buy It Now...then get someone else emailing them saying "do they realise that these records fetch £50+"
Really annoying in my opinion..
If people aren't prepared to do the research with what they're selling, then why should they reap the rewards? All the info is available these days
on the interwebs etc
Anyway, that turned into a rant then....didn't mean it to sound "rrrrraaaaRRRRR"....lol
Just does my shed in when losing a bargain due to someone elses meddling...so i kinda felt for Polak there  (no offence Matt) 
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| posted on January 9th, 2010 at 11:57 AM |
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There was a BUY IT NOW for $10,000.00
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| posted on November 3rd, 2010 at 08:24 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by karmann54
I've had several '54 models with the VW Motors Newstead badge. They were all CKD kits, with the MKA number in the spare tyre well.
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My '54 has the VW Motors Newstead badge but is a full import, ie no MKA number.
Birth certificate from Wolfsburg says it was built on 15 April 1954 and disaptched on 6 May 1954 to "Kemsley London" who I understand were shipping
agents "Tozer, Kemsley and Millbourn" (TKM) who would have arranged the transport to Australia.
Also my car was metallic Strato Silver - a colour not attempted by Martin and King.
1954 Beetle 1200 (Stato silver fully German built)
1963 Beetle Karmann Cabriolet (Australian delivered)
1964 Beetle 1200
1967 Beelte 1300 Deluxe
1969 Karmann Ghia (genuine Australian delivery)
1973 Superbug L
2007 Golf TDI
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