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posted on February 25th, 2010 at 08:23 AM
Interesting turbo news
Taken from another board, as follows:
""I work at Garrett Turbos, now called Honeywell Turbo Technologies which there so proud of. When Cliff Garrett Owned Garrett He used to brown bag
his lunch everyday and cared for a quality Product. If he knew what Honeywell has done now he would turn over in his grave. Honeywell bought Garrett
In 1998 or 1999. After this they opened up a turbo testing lab in shanghai China and quickly moved there turbo overhaul to Mexicali Mexico, quickly
after Garrett overhaul went belly-up. So they moved there whole production to Mexicali Mexico, as if that first failure was not a sign.
Garrett Turbos made a quality product for a fair price. A turbo is a precision instrument. Garrett turbos was part of Garrett Air Research (on 190th
st. In Torrance ca.) Where they have a huge facility designing turbine engines, and so on. Most of the senior technicians in our main turbo facility
(Lomita Blvd Torrance ca) came from our air research. If you’re building jet engines a turbo is not all that difficult. Well Cliff Garrett dies. At
that time ALL production of Garrett Turbos was at Lomita Torrance ca. Also all engineering and research was there as well. After we were bought and
production was sent to Mexico to save costs. Our production numbers doubled. And cost was cut in half our failure rate tripled. Well who cares
Honeywell is making money and lots of it. Turbos are considered Honeywell’s golden egg. They feel that turbos are going to take over big. Which it
already has in the diesel market. We make ford diesel turbos, daf, Chevrolet, some Audi, vw, fiat, Perkins. Millions of turbos. And there now all
coming from china and Mexico. Well up until lately the company figured if the product was designed in the US and assembled in Mexico we would be ok.
Well to further there profit and **** the customer once again....the LAST of what makes turbo American leaves in January 2011. We will close the doors
to the Torrance Lab. In Torrance we did all our racing turbos (wrc stuff, Audi racing etc..) then in the garret garage we did the turbos you people
buy for your Subaru’s. Actually I take that back. They take turbos that were made on a production line somewhere else in the world, and change a
couple of parts on a bench in Torrance (wheels, housing..etc) and send it to you the customer saying it was made in the us.....no it was not it was
just repackaged and altered a little. Well as of Jan 2011 all your turbos will be made in Mexico or china or Czech Republic. This is the last Garrett
facility in the United States.
We have huge law suits pending due to turbo failures. GM is probably going to leave us.... ford has already sued us. Caterpillar has one of the
largest recalls in garret history in the process. Our name is becoming ****. The last few VERY smart guys left in the company are being fired to save
costs, but see our profit is already good.....they just want more. Please don’t spend 1500$ on a gt35r. Now that it’s costing Honeywell less to
build turbos do you think you will see a smaller bill when you order there product? NO!. They are going to charge you even more for even less. There
are countless procedures that are being terminated everyday that made our turbos THE BEST. They keep cutting corner after corner. Did you know that we
shave metal off our turbine and compressor housings until they are at the EXTREME minimum needed to contain in the event of failure they are shaving
every nickel off the cost of a turbo. Did you know that 2000$ gt40 you buy is all mark up. I won’t dare say the actual cost to the company in fear
of a lawsuit but lets just say your sales tax is more then the production cost.
Do not buy these turbos. BorgWarner and mitsu are trying there best to compete with us making a quality product. Honeywell is using its big name to
back junky turbos Like Toyota is starting to do. I guarantee in the next 8 months you will see a huge decline in quality. All designing and production
is in CHINA AND MEXICO. Honeywell is taking back all there benefits they used to supply us with as employees. That way when they lay us off its as
cheap as possible. Instead of saying "Well after we take a hit laying those people off we will make tons" they are just taking back all there
benefits so they walk away clean and clear. We used to get a severance package. Which they just took away. One of the head engineers involved in the
t3 project. (Designing the first t3) he is still with our company. he was supposed to get 44 weeks of pay if he ever got layed off (30 days and 1 week
for every year with the company. 40 years with the company)Due to the new Honeywell rules he gets only 16 weeks pay they stole all that pack after
promising it to him for 40 years. My fingers and about to fall off typing all this and I am heated so I don’t care about grammar I’m concerned
about you people not supporting a Nazi company. Take your business elsewhere. Somewhere where you will get what your money pays for. Have a nice day
and don’t forget if you hear the name HTT Honeywell Turbo Technologies Stay away
(They still use the garret stamp on the turbos)""
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posted on February 25th, 2010 at 08:58 AM
Progress........pffffttttttt. Dont you love big business...NOT.
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posted on February 25th, 2010 at 09:08 AM
Who cares, IHI VF turbos are the go anyway. Garrett schmarrett
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posted on February 25th, 2010 at 09:58 AM
This is just one example of what is going on, fucking Capitalism and Globalization. Profit is the bottom line in every major company in the world and
sad thing is that us, the shareholders are mainly to blame.............I could go on with my frustration I guess now not the time for it.