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 Craig Torrens
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 04:36 PM |
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Simple VW Street Beetle Class for DRAGS
The old K.I.S.S. method
Rule 1: Car must not weigh less that original manufacturers specs.
Rule 2: Everything else is free, as long as it complies with rego for its home state.
This will mean it comes down to the good old power to weight ratio. So you will need to extract good HP from the motor......not just turn up in a
gutted out car to post a good time.
Thats what i reckon would make a good class.
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 04:46 PM |
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Why only beetles ? I dont want to have to go out and buy another car just to compete in this class .
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 05:03 PM |
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Yeah don't discriminate those of us who are in Kombi's after all we are the heaviest LOL
Personally I think it should be street tyres, muffler, set a minimum weight so either light cars carry weight and cars that are heavier can strip
weight out. Engine wise should there be some rules like having to run a cooling system and perhaps air cleaners.
It is always going to be a huge can of worms doing rules for something like this but personally it would be a great class of racing to watch.
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 05:39 PM |
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So what is it you are organising Craig??
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 06:12 PM |
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Good idea craig i was thinking of somthing simular!How about all V.A.G. 2wd mass produced vehicles with orignal type of engine(ie air cooled flat4
T1,T2,T3,watercooled 4,5,6,8's vw audis seats skoda etc)rego details match the car in question and lites,indicators,wipers, glass windscreeen,Body
pannels must be mounted in stock location.Every thing else free?
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 06:19 PM |
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I think road legal tyres, no semi slicks etc?
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 06:30 PM |
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why only 2wd ? Golfs wouldnt stand a chance against aircooled cars . You can rule out all 8s as they only came out Quattro and most a6/s6's .
Should be all 4/6 cylinder VAG cars . FWD should be allowed full slick , rear wheel drive semi slick , all wheel drive street tyre or something
equivalent .
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 06:47 PM |
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Stripped out cars with fibreglass bits are what i drive so your idea for factory delivered weight initally put me against it then i remembered that my
standard came with the passenger seat and rear seat delete option M236.(I think they called it the tv delivery man option i'll check with my vw
geek)betcha that will be a light car!Gotta remember a lot of country tracks may not have scales.As for tires plain radials would be cool but what ever
suits me.At "the 2009 event who's name shall not be spoken"my first pass was against a trailered race bug on slicks beat him on a holeshot,me with
brazillian heads and M/T drag radials.
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:07 PM |
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I think specifing weight is a bit dificult as it's too hard to proove or too easy to complain about. I'm not trying to argue but keep it simple as
suggested. Rego, with all lights and saftey equipment, any legal tyres although there is an argument to rule out M/T's and the like as they are
expensive yada yada, but for that matter if your serious about going fast, wouldn't you be running those tyres??? So that one I'm not sure about.
I do prefer the air cooled varities only (with any engine of course) but if it has to be any VAG so be it.
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:12 PM |
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I think yous guys didn't read this post  
Simple VW Street Beetle Class for DRAGS
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:26 PM |
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Yeah point taken ian simple is good.Rego in your home state and thats it.And if the state you live in has tougher rules than say QLD tough luck,harden
up or move state!
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bug_racer
Why only beetles ? I dont want to have to go out and buy another car just to compete in this class .
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Um well.....maybe because the titles says its for beetles !!!
well dont compete in the class then......geez that was simple !
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:43 PM |
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posted by Craig Torrens
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posted by Bug_racer
Why only beetles ? I dont want to have to go out and buy another car just to compete in this class .
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Um well.....maybe because the titles says its for beetles !!!
well dont compete in the class then......geez that was simple !
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And why set up a series completely based upon a car that hasnt been sold here for over 30 years ?
And this is how your encouraging watercooled cars to come into drag racing ? By not including them in events ????
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:43 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by LIFE IN THE LOW LANE
Engine wise should there be some rules like having to run a cooling system and perhaps air cleaners.
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Why ? If people are stupid enough to let crap go down the throttle bodies, and let their motors have no cooling then let them !!!
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:47 PM |
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be nice to race other street beetles...can go in any tnt night and be up against other vehicles
Rules hey....hmmm
Werent the berg trophy rules simple too?
Loop holes, grey areas, implementation and decisions on rules is when it gets ugly
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:48 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bug_racer
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
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posted by Bug_racer
Why only beetles ? I dont want to have to go out and buy another car just to compete in this class .
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Um well.....maybe because the titles says its for beetles !!!
well dont compete in the class then......geez that was simple !
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And why set up a series completely based upon a car that hasnt been sold here for over 30 years ?
And this is how your encouraging watercooled cars to come into drag racing ? By not including them in events ????
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Its a beetle class, get over it !
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:49 PM |
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only 2 rules Daimo 
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:53 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
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posted by Bug_racer
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posted by Craig Torrens
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posted by Bug_racer
Why only beetles ? I dont want to have to go out and buy another car just to compete in this class .
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Um well.....maybe because the titles says its for beetles !!!
well dont compete in the class then......geez that was simple !
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And why set up a series completely based upon a car that hasnt been sold here for over 30 years ?
And this is how your encouraging watercooled cars to come into drag racing ? By not including them in events ????
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Its a beetle class, get over it !
Are you going to complain that you cant take a Formula 1 car into the formulae vee class ?
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Im complaining cause I come here with a watercooled drag car and Im unwelcome . I go to the watercooled forums and Im unwelcome cause Im into drag
racing and not into chrome wheels and lowered cars . I go to warwick and portland and dont really have anyone to race against in my class cause they
are all too slow so I get my wife to race in her street car . Im asking for acceptance into a street class for all VAG cars . The Gene Berg trophy
was for Vag cars , why cant this be the same ?
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 07:54 PM |
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yeah just like Andrew and I at Portland we had heaps of fun in our street registered bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QTMMjfYuC8
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be nice to race other street beetles...can go in any tnt night and be up against other vehicles
Rules hey....hmmm
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Craig Torrens
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:02 PM |
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Im complaining cause I come here with a watercooled drag car and Im unwelcome . I go to the watercooled forums and Im unwelcome cause Im into drag
racing and not into chrome wheels and lowered cars . I go to warwick and portland and dont really have anyone to race against in my class cause they
are all too slow so I get my wife to race in her street car . Im asking for acceptance into a street class for all VAG cars . The Gene Berg trophy
was for Vag cars , why cant this be the same ?
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but i'm giving rules for a SIMPLE BEETLE CLASS..........Not Rules for a "lets all hug and make sure every car is included" class.
Mate you're welcome here, you just don't fit the rules for the class im talking about.
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:05 PM |
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dragging water cooled cars is your passion, ours is air cooled
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:11 PM |
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Ok so "" who "" is hiring the race track
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:11 PM |
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now now!....i can see bug racers views!!!!
but i understand craigs topic......
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:12 PM |
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the guy that has all the money craigey T
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Ok so "" who "" is hiring the race track
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:14 PM |
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well it wont happen here in Sydney
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:15 PM |
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What about Gunnedah Drag strip than?
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:16 PM |
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craig has just moved, track hire must be cheap on other planets
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:18 PM |
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maybe he went to Oxford street last nite LOL
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:19 PM |
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I'm out already with a 1776.... no chance unless.... anyone want to swap a 3year old for a 2300cc
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| posted on February 28th, 2010 at 08:33 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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dragging water cooled cars is your passion, ours is air cooled [/quote
So why cant we race each other ?
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