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 68AutoBug
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NSW POLICE ENFORCING LOCKED CAR REGULATIONS
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Was told today that a Policeman was at a service station
handing out tickets to everyone who didn't lock their car when they went to pay for the petrol...
The NSW Law is, that You cannot move more than 1 meter
[I think its 1m] from Your car with it unlocked...
windows down is also illegal with Your car locked...
also illegal to leave Your keys in the car if You move more than 1 meter away from Your car ....
My Belief is.... IMHO.. that if You have an alarm fitted ...
You don't need to lock Your car when paying for petrol...
Now- New Cars don't have alarms.. only immobilisers etc..
but MY beetle does have an alarm... plus other little oddities
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| posted on March 24th, 2010 at 11:46 PM |
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I have an alarm as well, with remote central locking. I usually lock the car when I go to pay for fuel, but I don't close the windows. I would soon
know if anyone tried to unlock the car - the alarm is quite loud. lol
From your ole' mate Jeff
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I have an alarm as well, with remote central locking. I usually lock the car when I go to pay for fuel, but I don't close the windows. I would soon
know if anyone tried to unlock the car - the alarm is quite loud. lol
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Yes Jeff
My remote alarm is also loud...
so I don't normally lock My car when getting fuel..
haven't installed the electric solenoids as yet..
but always alarm the car...
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Don't you hate revenue raising
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And they wonder why people hate em?
idiots....
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 08:12 AM |
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gone are the days were you pay for your own actions. If i leave my car unlock then it's my fault if something happens. Don't need the police to baby
sit us all the time.
"Obey your Dreams"!
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 05:15 PM |
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PLUS a mother with small kids can't leave the kids in the car to go pay for the fuel.....
Pay windows like McDonalds is the go.... lol
or like in the USA where You pay for Your fuel... first... YIKES..
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 05:50 PM |
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Hi
So I guess when I leave the keys in my car with the motor running I'm in real trouble, do it every day, its part of my job.
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 06:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by tar76
If i leave my car unlock then it's my fault if something happens.
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yep. they should leave it at that... its your own choice, and if someone steals that car.... too bad.
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 06:49 PM |
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posted by 1303Steve
Hi
So I guess when I leave the keys in my car with the motor running I'm in real trouble, do it every day, its part of my job.
Steve
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YEP
can't go more than 1 meter from your car....
so, many farmers would be trouble every day opening gates etc... too
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 06:51 PM |
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That's a ridiculous law, I never would have imagined that they would do something like that in Australia. If you choose to leave your car unlocked,
that's your own risk, surely? I do it all the time at petrol stations, and sometimes longer stops if I'm in a quiet area.
What about vintage cars which don't have locks? What about convertibles, does the same law demand that you put your roof up?
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 08:38 PM |
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RULE 213 Making a motor vehicle secure.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/2008nswrrchanges.pdf
Rule applies to a driver of a motor vehicle who stops and leaves the vehicle on a ROAD
As far as im aware a service station is not a public road there fore you cannot be booked for leaving car open.
Fine is only $84 no points worth the risk I say.
Fines are here
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/0310_demerits_general.pdf
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 09:03 PM |
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I think u will find that petrol station driveways and shopping centre carparks are classed as gazetted roads. :s at least they are in the eyes of
insurance companies..
I live in a little country town, and very rarely lock my car in the driveway of my house. Heck sometimes I leave the keys in the ignition overnight
... what a crock of sh*t! Go catch the criminals, and not the bloke who leaves his keys in the car!
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 09:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
PLUS a mother with small kids can't leave the kids in the car to go pay for the fuel.....
Pay windows like McDonalds is the go.... lol
or like in the USA where You pay for Your fuel... first... YIKES..
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That would be a stupid thing to do anyway. Yes, it is terribly inconvenient, but how many times do cars go missing with babies strapped in the back.
Every couple of months. Fair enough if your kids are really ugly/little mongrels/you'd rather save your money for a 42 inch plasma, but if there is a
bit of love there, dont do it. My daughter is 11, I lock her in all the time. Even before there was a law. BTW this post is sexist. I was a uni
student, stay at home dad until my daughter was in year 2.
Petrol is the easy one, you can pay at the bowser at lots of places now. You'll get that in Scone around 2025 shortly after the 2nd set of traffic
lights. If you want milk, then it gets tricky.
There is only one revenue raiser law that I can think of, and that is school zones. You can be fined on pupil free days at public schools and during
school holidays at private schools. Thats just stupid. And my nearest private school has all the kids being bussed in so shouldnt even be a school
zone. Yet the school my daughter goes to occupies a whole block and only the front is a school zone, even though kids come from all directions.
duh.
There are a lot of dumb laws, cant argue there. But its not hard to lock a door. This is very low on my list. Here's a good one from where I work.
One of my colleagues is in a wheelchair and we have one of those lift things that go he wheels himself onto and it takes him up the stairs. The only
thing that can go on that lift is Brendan and his chair because that's all it is designed for. It has a sticker wheelchair use only, everything else
is unsafe. Fair enough you dont want to put a fridge on it, but a heavy box of paper? weighing 10-15 kg? Its much safer to carry that down the stairs
apparently.
 
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 09:48 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by chippy
I live in a little country town, and very rarely lock my car in the driveway of my house. Heck sometimes I leave the keys in the ignition overnight
... what a crock of sh*t! Go catch the criminals, and not the bloke who leaves his keys in the car!
cheers Todd
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I always leave the keys in my car at home...in the drive overnight....no problem, 1 advantage of not living in the city.
It really is pathetic all these stupid laws protecting us from ourselves....it's bureaucracy gone wrong or is that totally biserk!!!
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I would do that too for the insurance, but nobody would steal a ford so there is no point. A distant relative got busted for insurance fraud when
somebody "stole" his.
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| posted on March 25th, 2010 at 09:57 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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What about vintage cars which don't have locks? What about convertibles, does the same law demand that you put your roof up?
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I was thinking the same thing. I work on old Tourers and Roadsters that have no top or locks.
What would a parent do that has two baby/toddlers, twins or even triplets strapped in the back of the car?
What about a parent with a disabled child that is in a wheelchair in the vehicle?
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Just to go on a similar tangent!
I went through a fast food drive through with two under 3 children strapped in and a $5 note.
I looked at the menu and there was only VALUE MEALS shown. I asked the attendant what I could buy for $5 being fries and a burger and they would not
help. They said I had to come inside. I said I cant, I want to know what the cost of a fries and burger was, I have $5 blah blah blah. In the end I
cracked it, they would not serve me unless I came inside and looked at the menu.
Anyway the head office of the company was very apologetic, and sent me a $10 voucher. However that is irrelevant as it shows how simple service is
SHOOT in this day and age. Lets just throw pregnant mums off trains. Lets just throw people with walking sticks off trams. Lets just ride our bikes on
the footpath and force parents with prams onto the dirt. Why not just close lift doors on pram drivers too.
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
What would a parent do that has two baby/toddlers, twins or even triplets strapped in the back of the car?
What about a parent with a disabled child that is in a wheelchair in the vehicle?
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I dont see it as a relevant argument to the door lock law. Is it safer to leave your kids in an unlocked car than a locked one? If the kids arent old
enough to undo the harness and let the handbrake off, or you trust that they wont, you lock the door. Otherwise you take them with you.
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Many cars overseas lock all doors with the keys in the ignition..
I think that is disabled over here...
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Kids have got to be safer locked in the car.....
but when its over 35c in the Sun, it doesn't take long for the temperature to rise over 50c in a car with the windows up..
many people here on hot days leave the kids in the 4WD with the engine and air conditioner going..
many cars cannot be locked with the engine going???
never tried that in a Lancer or Swift.. lol
air cooled cars should be exempt anyway... lol
do the 1/4 windows count as a "window" ???
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nsw.. haha sucks to be you guys..
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nsw.. haha sucks to be you guys..
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Where do you live????
I thought all states were going to have the same laws...??
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| posted on March 26th, 2010 at 06:11 AM |
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Umm some negative posts here the police are just doing there job
MODERATORS clean this up
Keeping it real !
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| posted on March 26th, 2010 at 07:04 AM |
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I can't lock my car. Not to mention I just throw my keys under the front seat.
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Give it a rest silver. I you have a personal beef with the mods take it up with the mods
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Give it a rest silver. I you have a personal beef with the mods take it up with the mods
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Many cars overseas lock all doors with the keys in the ignition..
I think that is disabled over here...
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yep thats anti hijack, was standard on the more upmarket toyotas that were fully imported in the 70s and 80s
my pops cressida, ex's crown and a mates mk1 soarer all had it.
a good saftey measure but what a pain in the ass
soon as you hit about 25km/h all the doors lock
then unlock when you turned off the engine
sucked for me, going down the driveway i just got fast enough that they all lock then stop to open the gate....locked in 
the alarm in my bug has the provision for it but no way in hell i would hook it up
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i bought a central locking/alarm/emobilizer kit that did that. and was only $25 and plugged into the existing central locking of my Toyota Celica
As soon as u put ur foot on the brake for more than 3 seconds with hte car on, the doors would lock with the system (IE: thinking you stopped at
lights or intersection etc). As soon as u turned the car off it unlocked and the celica with its original system in the background naturally then
would unlock if u tried to lock the car with the keys in but only when the whole car was turned off.
was a trip out but felt secure.
And Silver, i see where ur coming from, but when u personally get burnt by the cops and when they have a fun fair with ya, particularly when u been a
local in the area for more than 18 yrs, u take it personally. Try nearly half a grand 5 days before xmas on a uni student wage(I hadn't done xmas
shopping yet), to get a car defected that u couldn't afford to fix, so u had to deregister (and am still car-less), and to find that the grounds of
the legislation they used to fine u was incorrect and they weren't in a position to judge (by the book) whether i could have stopped at a yellow
light or not, for them further to defect the car for a minor exhaust leak (Due to a soft head on the engine), ding in the number plate, no straps on
the sub box, crack in the corner parking light. My clean record i had for 3.5 yrs got sh**ted on in an instant.
no straps on teh sub box? what if it was a tool box? u don't need straps for ur golf clubs in the boot. Number plate was only a slight bend...
pathetic. I'm trying to get by, i got my own probs, and some hot headed prick comes along and sh*ts on a person whose already struggling. crack in
the corner light... geez how fatal. A roo bar on a 4x4 is more dangerous, yet legal.
Then to get told that it wasn't the way i drove, it was the fact i brought attention to myself (quote from the cop).
It was only a simple trip to Aldi's to get bread and milk for my mum, and my little brother was in the car with me.
So, then i bought a $400 car to replace the one i couldn't afford to fix, i did the rust repair work and fixed it in a week by spares and
reconditioning from stuff i had, to have it blow up 2 nights later after getting it registered, for the engine to be dying on the way home with it
sounded aweful and me freaked/scared sh**less, to have a fat bitch street cop at the side of the road swear at me from the kerb while i'm panicing
(cursing at me, how professional, i could of had young kids in the back) whilst she could obviously see i was in a bit of trouble. I made it home...
just before it completely died.
Now u can see where i come from. Before paying the fines i asked the queensland transport department about how to go with court, and even the office
ladies behind the counter of the cop shop, no one had no idea on the process.... sigh. No one could help me. The fine was too close to the due date
for me to suss it out.
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Oh! sorry Silver, i understand whats going on now... ur just pissed cause of the moderators and the excuse for the superpcruise thread going, yet
there's negativity here... I wasn't having a dig at ya, just justifying why i have a negative stance to the local police. Although still, if i am in
trouble, i still gotta give them the call and rely on them. Which sux... i haven't got many cousins to call for help lol
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Where do you live????
I thought all states were going to have the same laws...??
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currently between the deep south - vicco n the land of sunshine n lollipops..
queenslander!
but the bestest part of nsw is I can drive thru it.. 
oh n valla of course
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absolutely ridiculous,im sure half these people who think of these rules,never actually THINK,im sure they do excatly what everyone else does in the
state yet they dont think of that.I bet they never get booked.
"A car for the people, an affordable Volkswagen, would bring great joy to the masses and the problems of building such a car must be faced with
courage."
Adolf Hitler At opening of 1934 Berlin Auto Show
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