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 jjwebb123
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 posted on April 21st, 2010 at 09:53 AM |
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DIY Panel Beating.what do we need?
Hey Everyone.
As some of you may know,my dad and i have taken on a 1975 kombi for restoration.We are at the point now where everything is stripped,and just about
ready to get into the good stuff.We have not done any of this stuff before but would like to give it a crack.Our neighbor is a panel beater by trade
so he will give us some pointers but we will be on our own for most of it.
What are the main tools that we will be needing.?
Sandpaper what grain? spraycan container on top or bottom?
beast type of welder?cutting tools.
Any information would be greatly put to use.
Thanks in Advance.
~Jas~
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 11:35 AM |
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If you can get hold of a copy of Don Wait's 'Panel Beating & Car Restoration', it will be invaluable. Don was the Head Teacher at Ultimo Tech.
when I did my Panel-beating apprenticeship,back in the 1950s. There is probably no-one more knowledgeable on the subject. Don is still around - now in
his '90s - I believe.
Cheers, Greg
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 11:45 AM |
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posted by jjwebb123
Hey Everyone.
As some of you may know,my dad and i have taken on a 1975 kombi for restoration.We are at the point now where everything is stripped,and just about
ready to get into the good stuff.We have not done any of this stuff before but would like to give it a crack.Our neighbor is a panel beater by trade
so he will give us some pointers but we will be on our own for most of it.
What are the main tools that we will be needing.?
Sandpaper what grain? spraycan container on top or bottom?
beast type of welder?cutting tools.
Any information would be greatly put to use.
Thanks in Advance.
~Jas~
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Hi Jason
I believe You can buy a panel beating kit at SUPERCHEAP shops.. its not expensive... AUTO one may have them too..
You need some dollies... and special hammers..
thick pieces of steel shaped to put under the metal You are hitting with a special hammer...
You need to shrink some metal... and stretch other metal..
panel beating isn't like it used to be...lol
the metal panels are usually replaced these days as they are too thin to panel beat...
but if You are cutting rust out and replacing the rusted metal with new metal... there is work for You to do,..
My Son does all mine.... lol
LEE
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jjwebb123
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 11:56 AM |
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Thanks guys,ok i will look out for that book,that type of knowledge is getting more and more rare.i never thought of that lee,might check out some
autoshops.
im going down town soon to get an orbital sander,what type of sandpaper should i get?
Thanks
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 02:35 PM |
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I'm no expert but Wet & dry paper 400 600 800 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 400 600
800 end_of_the_skype_highlighting grit..?
just look at it and get some fairly coarse and some very fine and some in between...
after painting a car, My Son goes over the final coat with wet & dry paper {WET] very very fine...
so the paint will be level...
this is all done by Hand.... using [WET] Wet & dry paper...
then polishes it with an electric polisher... using a special polish... linishing cream.. I think its called
LEE
I suppose You would use a coarse pad in the sander when using it on bare steel...
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jjwebb123
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 03:09 PM |
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yeah my neighbor was telling me about that wet paper to finish it off with.pretty cool stuff
Couldn't get an orbital sander bummer.
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 03:13 PM |
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ah all you need is heaps of bog
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jjwebb123
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 03:14 PM |
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yeh i know.
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 03:42 PM |
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basic kits like this can got on ebay fairly cheap
its all i use on small stuff
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 03:44 PM |
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ah all you need is heaps of bog
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carefull who you say that around, some people actually do it 
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 03:48 PM |
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yikes!, the weight of all that bog would have been like dropped spindles
1 1963 356b porsche coupe
2 1960 karmann ghia cab
1 1965 karmann ghia cab
1 1966 karmann cab
1 1961 split ute
1 1967 split p/van
1 1952 standard bug
1 1963 ragtop
1 1960 ragtop
2 1954 ovals
1 1956 oval baja project
1 1957 oval flying flea
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| posted on April 21st, 2010 at 05:35 PM |
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bog
that's a disgrace Joel...no other way to describe it
There is obviously some skill and natural ability involved to do a good job. Sadly I lack both of these when it comes to panel repair.
Good luck with it!
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| posted on April 22nd, 2010 at 10:53 AM |
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i used to have one of the supercheap kits, they weren't too durable but the dolly's were ok but a little on the light side. Try to get at least one
good hammer (planishing) which you will use the most.
Cutting tools - angle grinder, rotary tool for ackward bits. Plus aviation tin snips (left, right and straight to make your life easier).
Eye protection and a half decent respirator is a must. (Don't skimp and get the 50c paper masks ...)
Thats not rust, it's ah ... orange primer ... yep that's what it is ...
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jjwebb123
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| posted on April 22nd, 2010 at 11:48 AM |
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yeh ok thanks for the advice,im going to need it.I had a panel beating apprenticeship lined up,but it just fell through.
so will have to learn my self.Anyone know of any jobs
going lol 
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