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posted on April 25th, 2010 at 08:01 PM
Proposed driver training facility at Barden Ridge, Sydney?


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I heard a rumour that there is going to be a driver training facility constructed at Barden Ridge, Sydney, thats near the Lucas Heights nuclear facility.

Apparently there has already been complaints about it.

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The story from the local newspaper,

Car racers call for a track in shire
BY DAVID MCCOWEN
25 Mar, 2010 03:00 AM
A Sutherland Shire motoring enthusiast frustrated by the closure of Oran Park in January, is investigating the possibility of the region playing host to a motor racing park.

Shane Beresford of Caringbah contacted Sutherland Shire Council to say there was a need for a motorsport park in south Sydney and that he believed the region would make an excellent venue.

"I know a lot of people who would be interested in it,'' Mr Beresford said.

"I was thinking that you could start small then go a bit bigger and a bit bigger.''

A council spokesman said Mr Beresford had asked the council to list vacant areas suitable for a motor racing facility.

"The council is not in a position to assist him with land or locations in the shire,'' the spokesman said. "We've referred him to the state government.''

Mr Beresford said a private or state-owned facility could take the form of a small skidpan the size of a netball court complex, allowing curious drivers to safely explore the limits of adhesion and to be trained in advanced driving techniques.

"The general public in the Sutherland Shire, their driving skills are a bit lacking. I see a lot of P-platers doing stupid stuff,'' Mr Beresford said.

"You don't know whether they know how to control their car.''

Mr Beresford, a member of Initial Drift Australia, said he knew of Sutherland Shire car enthusiasts who went "drifting'' at night on public roads.

Drifting, a fringe form of motorsport, involves drivers keeping their cars on the edge of control using driving techniques including power oversteer, handbrake use and Scandinavian flick steering.

He said a lack of legal facilities in Sydney pushed some drivers, but not himself, to practise drifting in the Royal National Park.

"It's out of the way,'' Mr Beresford said. "At night it's easier to see what's coming at you. If you see headlights you stop drifting and let pass the car that's coming up.''

Southern Sporting Car Club president Greg Boyle said more than 200 people were members of his Menai-based club.

The group organises sprint days on race tracks and hill-climb competitions.

He said a Sutherland Shire-based facility would help hoons get speed out of their system in a legal environment.

"It would be a great money generator and keep the racing off the streets and that sort of thing,'' Mr Boyle said.

"There would be thousands of people behind it. A driver training track or hill-climb, you'd get away with that.''

Mr Boyle said interest in grassroots motor racing had waned after the closure of Oran Park. ``It's a great shame that Oran Park closed,'' he said.

"A lot of people aren't racing anymore. Oran Park was such a great track; Eastern Creek is a bit boring.

"Oran Park was a tight track, a technical track.''

Mr Boyle said Southern Sporting Car Club membership costs $50 a year and that hillclimb events cost just $50 per day.

"It is a very cheap form of motorsport,'' he said. "With Oran Park gone, a lot more people will be racing on the streets.''

Race Failure

Sutherland Shire Council knocked back a proposal to invite the V8 Supercar circus to the streets of Cronulla more than 10 years ago.

Event promoter Steve Sargeant started organising a surfside street race similar to the Gold Coast Indy event in 1998.

The Leader published details of his proposed spectacular with a front-page story that provoked outrage from residents.

The council sided with public opinion and voted against Sargeant's proposal at the earliest opportunity.

Do you think Sutherland Shire needs a racing facility?
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posted on April 25th, 2010 at 08:09 PM



PS, there is an online poll, be sure to vote, http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/news/general/car-racers-call-for-a-tra...
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posted on April 27th, 2010 at 07:17 AM



Barden Ridge Steve? Not much land left there, the only open area, next to the sports grounds, has been set aside for a new golf course.

I wonder if they're thinking of using the land where the tip currently is (technically at Lucas Heights). I did hear that the tip will be full in 3 or 4 years time. And there's been motorbike tracks through the bush there as long as I can remember.
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posted on April 27th, 2010 at 11:09 AM



Hi

Its land that was previously the tip, over towards Heathcote Road behind the existing sporting complex.

Lucas Heights or Barden Ridge, same thing, they changed the name so that land value went up I guess. Who wants to say they live next to the "bomb factory", that's what most locals call Lucas Heights.

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posted on April 27th, 2010 at 11:13 AM



They had a proposed course like this suggested up SEQ way near jacobs well, in the middle of the sugar cane pastures just last yr i think it was. Too many residents complained about it.

Shame really, would have got the mass amounts of local hoons off the streets and onto safer grounds. The idea fell threw. :(




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posted on April 27th, 2010 at 02:32 PM



What a horrible thing to say about a perfectly good research reactor that prepares llife-saving medical radioisotopes. They should do a tour and learn something about it. The HIFAR reactor was first turned on in 1958 when it was all bush for miles around and you had to catch the Lugarno punt to get to it. Reminds me of the morons who buy houses at Mascot and then complain about the aircraft.

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Menai turns into Barden Ridge at the Bangor Bypass, then you keep going past the sports complex, and Menai Sand and Soil. My UBD shows a red dividing line between Barden Ridge and Lucas Heights that crosses New Illawarra Rd a few hundred metres before the ANSTO turnoff. It's then Lucas Heights up to Heathcote Rd.

Hope this comes off - from your other post Steve, it looks like WSID is now under threat too. Not to mention Eastern Creek being in development limbo, no V8s or superbikes there any more.
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posted on April 27th, 2010 at 03:18 PM



This is the proposed area. The current tip is the left-centre top, while the ANSTO centre is bottom right. I reckon, with a bit of money put into it, it would make a good site for a motorsport centre. A former tip will never have houses built on it - and having the reactor nearby there are no nearbu houses to complain about the noise.

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