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 Dasdubber
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| posted on July 13th, 2003 at 08:53 PM |
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How to: Early beetle body rear mount mod for late pan
Here are some photos of the rear body mount I had to move up so I could use the 68 pan with my 63 body. You can see the rear mount on the early body
is too low for the late pan (big gap between the pan and body).
[Edited on 14-7-2003 by Baja Wes]
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| posted on July 13th, 2003 at 08:54 PM |
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Get the grinder and chop chop....little air cut off tool is useful for the awkward tight spots.
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| posted on July 13th, 2003 at 08:55 PM |
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Here is the mount cut off at the right angle where it is spot welded onto the body.
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| posted on July 13th, 2003 at 08:57 PM |
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The problem I ran into was that I couldn't align the body back far enough for the pan to body holes to work - I had to grind the corner off the
shock tower trying not to remove too much material. Grind....fit....grind some more....fit.....etc. Bolt the front beam up as well to make sure the
two bolts that go into the beam line up as well.
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| posted on July 13th, 2003 at 08:58 PM |
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Here is the mount tack welded in place using some high tech spacers to get the vertical alignment right - just slightly thinner than the rubber pad
that will sit in there.
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| posted on July 13th, 2003 at 09:01 PM |
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Here it is welded in place - excuse the crappy welds (I am happy they will hold but I am sure I could have done better with a stronger mig -
couldn't get enough penetration) - minds out of the gutter please. Now all aligns, happy days again.
Hope this helps someone - took about a full days work (spread over the weekend).
Alan
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| posted on July 14th, 2003 at 09:10 AM |
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Thats an interesting way of doing the mount.
Much easier than the way i was thinking of. Much neater as well
JOB well done 
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| posted on July 14th, 2003 at 06:26 PM |
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:thumb
Great work there. Good people sharing stuff like this, makes others less worried about having ago !!
Great pics shows all.
I know it will come in handy for me in the future......:bounce
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| posted on July 29th, 2003 at 03:16 PM |
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Alan, have you used a IRS pan? (sorry Im not sure if IRS started in 68 or 69!) Thats how mine has been done!
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| posted on July 29th, 2003 at 06:31 PM |
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Sorry N, just saw your reply...it is a swing axle 68 pan with ball joint front end. I would have used an IRS if I had my time again but I already got
a super diff and heavy duty side plate in from the states so I didn't want to sell them for a loss, then buy new IRS ones.
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| posted on July 29th, 2003 at 06:48 PM |
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Its still looking good... keep it up.
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| posted on July 29th, 2003 at 08:09 PM |
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that's a much simpler way than i was planning to do it.
thanks, you've saved me hours of stuffing around.
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Great work & pics too.
Great work and self explanetary photos too. a job well done...
Congratulate Yourself...
As a haphazard welder Myself, Your welding looks great... My welding is usually as strong as the flux!!!!
I usually get My qualified Son to do it nowdays... Lee
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| posted on August 25th, 2003 at 01:06 AM |
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This is very helpful, good on you for sharing what you have learned
Is there much more involved in doing an IRS rear end pan under, oh lets say a 62 ragtop for hypothetical reasons
Cheers Tony
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| posted on August 27th, 2003 at 08:17 PM |
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Thanks guys, I'm glad it will be useful for someone (start up that grinder Tony)  It is not all that hard, trust me!
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| posted on October 17th, 2003 at 11:18 AM |
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Whattabout a 67 on a 72 pan?
Hunting around the net trying to solve my problem of fitting a 67 body to a 72 IRS pan. Will this simple step work, or is more involved? |
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| posted on October 17th, 2003 at 11:27 AM |
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The trouble is a 72 is a Super beetle
Not worth it.
Either get a 76 pan or a 68 semi auto and put a clutch in or just convert to IRS
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on October 17th, 2003 at 11:29 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by blue74l
The trouble is a 72 is a Super beetle
Not worth it.
Either get a 76 pan or a 68 semi auto and put a clutch in or just convert to IRS
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Oh, it's a 72 standard, not a super(never wolud I curse myself). |
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| posted on October 17th, 2003 at 11:35 AM |
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Oh, it's a 72 standard - cool. Didnt know they made a standard in 72
not a super(never wolud I curse myself). - careful. I have killed for less :o
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on October 17th, 2003 at 11:37 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by blue74l
Oh, it's a 72 standard - cool. Didnt know they made a standard in 72
not a super(never wolud I curse myself). - careful. I have killed for less :o
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| posted on October 17th, 2003 at 11:39 AM |
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LOL!!!!
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| posted on July 8th, 2004 at 09:07 AM |
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Heh its not very hard to swap the pan, but the most pain is rebuilding a chassis from the ground up 
Jon
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| posted on June 12th, 2010 at 07:13 PM |
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so apart from the rear chassis mounts a 58 should fit on a 68 semi-auto irs pan converted to a manual?
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| posted on July 1st, 2017 at 09:19 AM |
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this is what you need
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