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 sander288
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| posted on June 29th, 2010 at 08:30 PM |
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Towing to the track?
How does everyone racing get to the track?
I'm looking at trailers and more, and am trying to work out whats best.
I've seen some bolt on tow-balls for the front end of a bug, has anyone here had experience with them or know if they are legal? (NSW)
The other option of course is a trailer, found alot out there like one called a Kwik-Load the best but that will cost...
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| posted on June 29th, 2010 at 10:54 PM |
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Hi
If the car still has rego you can A frame it. Not legal in all states.
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| posted on June 30th, 2010 at 11:54 AM |
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just remember if you use an A frame you're still wearing out tyres, shocks, bushes, etc etc as the car is still driving/rolling on the
road...........and if you have an accident or a gearbox failure how do you get it home ?
When I was racing I used a single axle light weight trailer......it towed like a dream, and was easy to load with longer ramps..............it cost
about $1700 in materials to make.
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| posted on June 30th, 2010 at 02:16 PM |
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Hi
The A frame is an issue with a bent or broken car, the tyre wear etc would be negligible as there would be no power, steering or braking effort from
the towed car, like how often do you need to replace tyres on a trailer.
I'm looking into building a lightweight single axle car trailer as well, light enough to tow the Beetle with our Skyline and for our Prado to tow the
Skyline.
I've been researching trailer bits online and found these useful links.
There is trailer guy on eBay is called spinny_things, he's pretty competitive price wise
Also look at these sites http://www.astss.com.au/ and http://www.etrailerparts.com.au
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| posted on June 30th, 2010 at 05:14 PM |
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the A frame is the best method
just make up a light plate u can tie up to the rear bumper that operates off the tow vehicle
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| posted on June 30th, 2010 at 10:10 PM |
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or you can connect a wire loom into the beetles fuse box so the VW's light work when towing 
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 08:09 AM |
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Hey Colin, ask your old man about towing his FJ Holden with an A frame - behind a clapped-out ex-cab FC. They had to 'light up' the FJ to push the tow car up the big hills.
Cheers, Greg
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 08:54 AM |
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I agree with the trailer, single axle, nice and light. It all adds up in weight that the tow car has to pull and stop.
Last trailer discussion on avd, a lot of people were saying they are unsafe if you have tyre issues etc (on the trailer) compared to a dual axle, I
say, bollocks, I have been overtaking a vehicle towing a car trailer with my kombi also towing a car trailer, when the guy I was passing lost the
wheel and axle (stub axle broke) while I was alongside. Apart from a shower of bitumen, no issues, no flipping trailers etc etc.
The effort required to flip a trailer with a car strapped to it is more than you imagine.
The difference in weight and maneuverability is heaps, unless you want to be able to have large vehicles on the trailer.
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 09:11 AM |
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That's about spot-on, Matt.
Having done a bit of trailer towing, I might suggest using 'light truck' tyres, and ALWAYS carry a spare wheel. I take a 'trailer kit' along too,
with a jack, wheel spanner, bearing kit, plug adapters, D shackles, etc.
Cheers, Greg
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 11:23 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by HappyDaze
I might suggest using 'light truck' tyres, and ALWAYS carry a spare wheel. I take a 'trailer kit' along too, with a jack, wheel spanner, bearing
kit, plug adapters, D shackles, etc.
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Great advice and sounds like words of wisdom or someone that found out the hard way 
Once bitten, twice shy
Kev
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 02:21 PM |
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can anyone reccomend a good trailer company for a single axle job? I don't have the expertise to construct one myself unfortunately...
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 03:36 PM |
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here's a pic of mine....well the only pic I could find !
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 04:19 PM |
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nice car, nice scenery everything.
Ssnder i do believe that steve carter was looking at some good trailer companies, pm him but i say he will be on here soon enoght.
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 04:23 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by HappyDaze
That's about spot-on, Matt.
Cheers, Greg
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Says the guy with the ultimate towing bullock...a T5
My trailer is very light, a little too small as a beetle only just fits, mind you I've put a kombi or two on it as well 
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 05:09 PM |
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You're right about the T5 Matt - the best tow vehicle I've ever had. All 400 of those Newton Metres are good friends to me.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 07:55 PM |
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Hey craig does your trailer come with the car, i'll give you $100.. 
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 08:18 PM |
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I would hate to rip you off......so I decline your offer 
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 08:57 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by HappyDaze
Hey Colin, ask your old man about towing his FJ Holden with an A frame - behind a clapped-out ex-cab FC. They had to 'light up' the FJ to push the tow car up the big hills.
Cheers, Greg
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Dad has never shared that story with me.
I will ask him.
Cheers Col
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| posted on July 1st, 2010 at 11:21 PM |
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Hi
There is a single axle trailer in Nowra on eBay at the moment, its been taken off an put back on again. item # 230492730102
Steve
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| posted on July 2nd, 2010 at 09:25 AM |
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http://www.my105.com try there for trailers
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| posted on July 2nd, 2010 at 09:45 AM |
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Matt and Craig: are you trailers sprung or solid mounted axles?
I like the look of what you have there and am thinking of building something similar down the track... once I put some proper cage in the car... 
love to see some more pics of them.
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| posted on July 2nd, 2010 at 10:38 AM |
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Solid mount axle is not so good for a race car, as it means that the car's suspension does ALL the work. If you don't back off your (expensive)
shocks before towing, they won't last long.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on July 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 PM |
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Hi
Just looking at spinny things on eBay
Mechanical Disc Brake Kit - Boat Caravan Car Trailer $381.00
includes 1 x Galvanised 2000kg mechanical over-ride coupling - suits a standard 50mm towball
2 x Galvanised 1/2" 5-stud disc hubs with standard bearings and marine seals - available in Ford, HT/Early Holden, HQ Holden, or Commodore stud
patterns
8 mtrs x 4mm galvanised brake cable and 4x clamps
1 x Galvanised brake cable adjuster
2 x Threaded mounting plates for 39mm round, 45mm & 40mm square
2 x Galvanised mechanical calipers - suit 1/2" & 5/8" discs - with mounting screws and brake pads
1 x Galvanised standard A-frame handbrake to suit override coupling OR boat trailer hand brake
Axle, around $170
Mudguards $73
+ lights, Jockey wheel and steel to make it all.
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I picked up an old boat trailer and put a new top on it....The axle, springs, discs brakes and wheels were still ok
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| Quote: | Originally
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Solid mount axle is not so good for a race car, as it means that the car's suspension does ALL the work. If you don't back off your (expensive)
shocks before towing, they won't last long.
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X 2. I wouldn't contemplate a non sprung trailer. Other than what Greg has mentioned, it would not only kill your race car, but a lightweight trailer
would fatigue very quickly and would not last long.
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| posted on July 2nd, 2010 at 09:25 PM |
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fair enough.
frosty, noice rat trailer to go with the rat bug.
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Matt and Craig: are you trailers sprung or solid mounted axles?
I like the look of what you have there and am thinking of building something similar down the track... once I put some proper cage in the car...
love to see some more pics of them.
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Mine is sprung.......I will get some more pics this week for you.
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| posted on July 3rd, 2010 at 12:51 AM |
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trailers...
We have both single and dual axle trailers for the toys and the single axle wins hands down everytime with a small vehicle such as a beetle. They both
have electric brakes, with the single being lowered and the dual a tilting. The single tracks very well and was made to carry dubs with the axle
towards the rear so it is very well balanced. I have had Kombis on it, FJs and the occassional fiat.
Oh and the Fiat is deceptively larger than a Beetle - which I was surprised at. The Beetle fits on the trailer with about a foot spare to the front
and rear.
Mine is a trac-well which is made up the north coast.
If you have a look at the Formula Vee website they often have trailers for sale as good prices, just bear in mind the Beetle is a little heavier than
a Vee - but I have seen some nice trailers on their website which were priced well.
Cheers
Peter
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| posted on July 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 AM |
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Hi
Where I live the land is bit a bit uneven, when I've borrowed dual axle trailers if they are not on the car tow car they just bury the coupling in
the ground.
Are you into Fiats as well as dubs. I have friend in the Fiat scene in Sydney, Neil Ruxton.
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| posted on July 3rd, 2010 at 07:51 PM |
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trailers
Must be the way it was built, mine sits flat without the jockey wheel- but for safety sake the jockey wheel is always on when not coupled.
As for the scene, yep have a Spider and the BC and CC coupes, but dont really know anyone. They are great little cars and cheaper than vw's ...
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