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| posted on August 12th, 2010 at 09:59 PM |
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engine seals
How difficult is it to replace front and rear engine seals in a 1600?
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How difficult is it to replace front and rear engine seals in a 1600?
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the front seal next to the gearbox/transaxle..
the engine has to come out...
to replace it...
do the gearbox seal while the engine is out...
the rear engine oil seal -- there is NO rear engine seal..
just an oil slinger behind the crankshaft pulley..
so, if You overflow the engine with oil... the oil will come out from there... lol..
so, nothing to replace there...
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| posted on August 13th, 2010 at 04:44 AM |
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the glan nut is kinda annoying... was it 37mm socket???
it's suppose to be done around 250 ft-lbf ish
so 3/4" drive socket on breaker bar
i broke a 1/2" quality supercheap brand
and ended up just weld a socket on a scaffolding pipe
quite useful socket set to have since its the same size as the rear drum axle nut
also lock the flywheel with a bar of some sort drill holes on the bar and put bolts thru etc
don't use the mounting studs you'll bend it
oh yeah if u don't have a torque wrench that goes up to 250 lbf
i suggest making a bar 1m long and apply (lbf x 0.1512)kg on the end
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| posted on August 13th, 2010 at 09:17 AM |
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36mm socket required for the flywheel gland nut.
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| posted on August 19th, 2010 at 10:15 PM |
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Well!
Started the job and had no end of trouble getting the gland nut undone. Tried rattler - no good, tried brut strength - ended up havin 3 days off work
with muscular problems in shoulder and still not loose, loaded engine and took it to mechanic - undone with mother of a rattler. Now putting it all
together and have done nut up till breaker bar is bending like crazy.
Hope it's tight enough as I can't get a reading on torque wrench.
Shit of a job to do!
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 10:23 AM |
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Well!
Started the job and had no end of trouble getting the gland nut undone. Tried rattler - no good, tried brut strength - ended up havin 3 days off work
with muscular problems in shoulder and still not loose, loaded engine and took it to mechanic - undone with mother of a rattler. Now putting it all
together and have done nut up till breaker bar is bending like crazy.
Hope it's tight enough as I can't get a reading on torque wrench.
Shit of a job to do!
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Without going into details again, read.:
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=84647
This relates to a rear axle nut torquing but same for gland nut.
Not a hard job at all if you have the right info and equipment! If you have injured yourself with a strain then you did it all wrong. 
Have you got the 3/4" drive with a 3/4"bar to slip through it? If not you are only 25 minutes from me so a quick drive over and you can have one
for future for axle nuts as well as the gland nut! Cost? Nothing! I usually work on the fact that it's better to give than to lend as it usually
costs the same in the long run. You can have a seal installation
tool as well if you like. Too much junk hanging around the shed!
Once you have the bits they last for years. Still using a flywheel lock from the 60s! Only good if using an engine stand or the engine is complete
with heads etc.
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| posted on August 20th, 2010 at 11:20 PM |
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Gidday 1500S, Thanks for the offer of the bits,very generous of you, but I have fabricated the pieces I needed and your pictures have given me an
idea for another as well. I think the shoulder problem was actually a combination of doing the gland nut and an office installation the same day. Over
doing it.
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Gidday 1500S, Thanks for the offer of the bits,very generous of you, but I have fabricated the pieces I needed and your pictures have given me an
idea for another as well. I think the shoulder problem was actually a combination of doing the gland nut and an office installation the same day. Over
doing it.
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NO NO NO!!!
You did it at work.... lol
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| posted on August 21st, 2010 at 08:56 AM |
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Well!
Started the job and had no end of trouble getting the gland nut undone. Tried rattler - no good, tried brut strength - ended up havin 3 days off work
with muscular problems in shoulder and still not loose, loaded engine and took it to mechanic - undone with mother of a rattler. Now putting it all
together and have done nut up till breaker bar is bending like crazy.
Hope it's tight enough as I can't get a reading on torque wrench.
Shit of a job to do!
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Will Keep that in mind when i get off my a** an do mine ... good thing is i work in steel engineering and we have big f*off pneumatic tools 
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| posted on August 21st, 2010 at 09:14 AM |
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Geez I've never had a flywheel come loose in 15 years of knocking these things toghther just using a 3/4 breaker bar with some gal pipe over the end
and a bit of angle bolted to the flywheel
Check my mainseal replacement thread to see what I mean.
You do it enough times you tend to get a feel for what whats right torque by hand
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| posted on August 21st, 2010 at 02:19 PM |
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Gidday 1500S, Thanks for the offer of the bits,very generous of you, but I have fabricated the pieces I needed and your pictures have given me an
idea for another as well. I think the shoulder problem was actually a combination of doing the gland nut and an office installation the same day. Over
doing it.
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I didn't think any office work was so strenuous to strain anything!
Still remember an office bitch at AMP (that's Aircraft Marine Products electrical terminals!) at Northmead complaining about the heat when she walked
out of the office into the Toolroom. We never noticed any difference as it was hot all day in the summer and cold in winter.
Glad you've found a solution. Gee it's hard to give some of this stuff away. 
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| posted on August 21st, 2010 at 04:40 PM |
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Well got it all together today, but have decided that the herbie movies only gave the nice side of beetle personalities because mine is a stubborn
bastard. Either that or i'm a dumb buggar. Started engine and when i engaged clutch thrust bearing started to complain seriously (only replaced about
2 months ago) and is not engaging properly so I can't get car into gear.
Engine out again! (maybe tomorrow)
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| posted on August 21st, 2010 at 05:30 PM |
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Well got it all together today, but have decided that the herbie movies only gave the nice side of beetle personalities because mine is a stubborn
bastard. Either that or i'm a dumb buggar. Started engine and when i engaged clutch thrust bearing started to complain seriously (only replaced about
2 months ago) and is not engaging properly so I can't get car into gear.
Engine out again! (maybe tomorrow)
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Did you bend the friction plate either removing or replacing engine??
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| posted on August 21st, 2010 at 06:16 PM |
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Well won't know without pulling engine again. I did have an issue with the clutch plate not being centered properly first time I tried putting it in.
Didn't think I caused an issue but will obviously have to look at it.
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| posted on August 21st, 2010 at 08:42 PM |
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Well won't know without pulling engine again. I did have an issue with the clutch plate not being centered properly first time I tried putting it in.
Didn't think I caused an issue but will obviously have to look at it.
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Looks like you also need a clutch centreing tool!
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Well won't know without pulling engine again. I did have an issue with the clutch plate not being centered properly first time I tried putting it in.
Didn't think I caused an issue but will obviously have to look at it.
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Looks like you also need a clutch centreing tool!
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Over the years, I never ever used a clutch centering tool...
just did it by eye.. lol
once the clutch pedal is pushed down it self centers..
it has to be very close to do that.. naturally... lol
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I actually have a clutch centering tool but got from supercrap autos and it is only plastic. I have done clutches before in other cars without
centering tools no problems. I have to take it to my mechanic as I have a bad back and it is at it's end with bending over and lifting things while
working on clutch. Thems the breaks. Will also get rego check done as running out of time to prep car for rego. Nee to get some rust and welding done
as well as new front tyres for rego.
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| posted on August 23rd, 2010 at 03:07 AM |
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Yeah, I have never used a "clutch centering tool" done a few clutches on a few different types of cars and the first time I had a problem I just
turned a timber spigot wth the different diameters to insert through the clutch and into the crank, worked a treat so thats what I do now.
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