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posted on October 29th, 2010 at 11:26 PM



hye guys after a long wait my dad has finally gotten his python exhaust system from csp! here is a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZQMWUWD-4g 

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posted on October 30th, 2010 at 11:16 PM



hey guys, 66deluxe in particular.. i had a talk to kevin today and he has a type 4 2.4 litre with a mild cam, 103mm bores, the largest valves possible (thats what he told me) and its balanced.. it also has a high compression ratio that is the largest you could go without being unreliable, anyway him and his son built it about 10 years ago but his son lost interest in the vw seen for the muscle, now its not assembled but its all there how much do you think this is all worth, they said they spent 6 grand on it back then but they tried to sell it a year ago for 4grand but had no bites, if i put an offer for 3000 maybe? well i would have to save it all up



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posted on October 31st, 2010 at 05:05 PM



The 2.4 would have cost 6K 10 years ago, paying 4k for it a year ago for all the parts is still a bargain, you could offer 3 if youlike. Ask him what exact heads they are and what cam it is.



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posted on October 31st, 2010 at 06:56 PM



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The 2.4 would have cost 6K 10 years ago, paying 4k for it a year ago for all the parts is still a bargain, you could offer 3 if youlike. Ask him what exact heads they are and what cam it is.


i just went over there to talk about the 2.4 and some other stuff and it has MASSIVE stainless steel valves on it, im not sure of the size but i will verify the size once i verify that i am actually buying it, found out some other stuff aswell. it has racing forged pistons aswell! talk about a opportunity, he says his son will probablyy want something close to 4 thousand but i ges we could nudge that down a little, all i can say is that all the work has been done and it was done by a trained mechanic and machine shop person

i have just arranged to buy 2 fiberglass front fenders from Barry Lord.. they look sweet and will save me heaps of time on body work. also later in the project i will buy a back set so that if i have a prang its not with original steel




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posted on December 7th, 2010 at 09:28 PM



ok so here goes.. last few months have been slow, i have saved to buy some more parts. bought some front fiberglass fenders from barry lord (perfect 56 moulds) and im soon going to be buying the rear ones.

many other small parts aswell. here is what i have done:

Cut the old H apron out because it was stuffed.

Cut alot of rust out near the rear right bumper bracket.

paint type 4 valve covers with VHT WRINKLE PAINT.. waiting for results in the morn

overhauled the pedal cluster

overhauled the wiper motor assembly with near armatures, and blades

removed bolts from body in prep for body off pan restoration,

gathered many parts for my 36hp build




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posted on December 7th, 2010 at 09:33 PM



pedal cluster and valve covers cleaned

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posted on December 7th, 2010 at 09:34 PM



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posted on December 8th, 2010 at 07:34 AM



looks great mate! i just picked myself up a 65 and plan to restore her too!
their seems to be lots of young people like us (im 18) doing up bugs now!
look forward to seeing more progress




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posted on December 8th, 2010 at 08:03 AM



Mate you are doing a seriously awesome job! I can't wait to see how your build comes along.
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posted on December 8th, 2010 at 09:27 AM



Terrific work mate.
I'm jealous. Wish I had that much room to work on cars, and wish I had a nice starting point like you do with the oval.
Keep up the good work!
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posted on December 9th, 2010 at 09:32 AM



here is that wrinkle paint after drying



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posted on December 9th, 2010 at 09:32 AM



here is that wrinkle paint after 3 days of drying

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posted on December 21st, 2010 at 11:01 PM



ok so here goes, fuel tank etch primered, filler primer then top black coat!.. access holes paint same method, hand brake, steering wheel tube, indicator stalk.. etch primered..


$87.00 later i finally tracked down a RHD rear veiw mirror for my oval.. it is in pretty good shape... some of the chrome is flaking but i cant really do anything about it :sniffle:

i had a WW sun visor in my parts stash whcih i can use :cool:

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posted on January 10th, 2011 at 05:00 PM



hey guys, i have been indulging in restoring the easy stuff..

going to be welding the NEW (klokerholm one was incorrect) heater channel in in about 3 weeks time aswell as the right side rear qaurter panel.. and a few spot holes that need welding up.

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posted on January 10th, 2011 at 06:05 PM



I like what I see in this last photo at about the 4pm position - A timing wheel mmmmm.

Keep up the good work, Kev.




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posted on January 10th, 2011 at 07:18 PM



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I like what I see in this last photo at about the 4pm position - A timing wheel mmmmm.

Keep up the good work, Kev.


thanks, yeah me and dad are trying to pioneer the upright type 4 fuel injected engines around our region haha yeah, glad to have you here man, your 61 looks the goods, love the colour :tu:




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posted on January 19th, 2011 at 11:31 PM



hey guys! me and my dad bought this cigweld transmig 175i

buy once cry once.
the idea is to for me to become a metal work guru and eventually fix both cars, this 56 and our 1967 karmann ghia :dork:


awesome, i have wanted to buy a welder for a long time and we have plenty of uses for it, Thanks dad!

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posted on January 20th, 2011 at 07:34 AM



Very good.
The wrinkle paint is a cracker!! Nice job on the fuel tank also.
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posted on January 20th, 2011 at 09:52 PM



Good work there Blair.Wish I had started something like you are doing at your age-guess when I was your age,there wasn't a lot of stuff around.I have a 2.7 fuel injected Type 4 in an Oval and it's awesome to drive.That motor you are looking at is a bargain.I have put all the good stuff into my engine-C/W forged crank,good heads with big valves,forged pistons etc,so I have a bit of an idea of what it would cost for all the bits your friend has bought.Don't hesitate,grab it.You were very lucky finding an Oval in such good condition.If you have any questions about squeezing a Type 4 into an Oval,always happy to help.You will need to modify your fuel tank if you are going with fuel injection.
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posted on January 21st, 2011 at 01:41 PM



hey, thanks for the comment..

yeah my dad has told me i should focus a bit more on the body work (hence the welder) so i am aiming to get it paint some time soon, so i wont have the money to save for that type 4.. on another note, when you say modify the fuel tank you mean making a swirl box? correct?, well i know someone has asked this somewhere but couldnt you just make like a large diameter flat cylinder, with a fuel inlet (from the tank) a line going to the efi inlet and a line coming from the efi outlet?




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posted on January 21st, 2011 at 03:41 PM



No I haven't bothered with that stuff-just thread the original centre fitting 1/4 BSP for a 10mm barbed fitting and you will need a return line back into the tank somewhere from your fuel pressure regulator.For this I made a fitting with a 1/4 bsp female thread-and silver soldered it to the bottom of the tank-about 150mm away from the centre fitting,and to the passenger side.I silver soldered a 10mm diameter piece of pipe into a barbed fitting(threaded end) for the centre suction fitting that protrudes into the tank about 40mm,just so you don't suck any shit off the bottom.EFI is a big ,expensive step,but very user friendly.My car doesn't get started sometimes for a couple of months,but it fires instantly and idles smooth straight away and can be driven cold with out any backfiring or spluttering.
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posted on January 21st, 2011 at 04:58 PM



I have also done a EFI setup that is very easy.
Similar to NB, 10mm out of tank gravity feeding through a strainer (not filter) into a small catch tank mounted on outside of front passenger firewall. From there it goes into a bosch 930 fuel pump, through a filter and into the engine. From the engine the fuel is then plumbed back into the fuel tank. I have also vented the catch can into the fuel tank incase of any airlocks. A good thing to note is that you should make your tank breath a little better than the factory screw on lid. You can look at my old build thread to see how I did this.
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posted on January 21st, 2011 at 09:05 PM



good to see you went for the CIG mig, good unit for what you are planning. Not sure how much experience you or your dad have with welding but just in case better to have it said than not, I would not mig the fuel tank or even braze it without a very thorough wash out with soapy water. In fact I know guys who won't weld fuel tanks unless they are full of soapy water. petrol fumes can cause huge explosions so beware....

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posted on March 15th, 2011 at 08:08 PM



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i forked out the money to get a new rear qaurter panel and H apron.. DONT ASK ME HOW MUcH THESE BAUTIES COST!

note: i got the H apron without the exhhaust cutouts, (pre 55) because i thought it would be different and i dont need them anyway

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posted on March 15th, 2011 at 09:57 PM



Looks great mate, is the rear apron from Autocraft?
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posted on March 15th, 2011 at 10:06 PM



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Looks great mate, is the rear apron from Autocraft?
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hi alan, they are from Tomasz at "kdf services"

there are three options either autokrft (sloppy mouldings but cheap)

Kdf services (good/very good moulding and average price)

wolf parts (very very expensive and from what i have seen about as good as wat i bought)


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posted on March 15th, 2011 at 10:19 PM



Thanks for the details mate, I have to do an apron on my 54 and haven't been overly excited about what panels have been available to date. Good to hear you were happy.
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posted on March 16th, 2011 at 07:03 AM



Very nice. How do you find kdf services?



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posted on March 17th, 2011 at 10:07 AM



he was really responsive. it took him a while to make the parts though, he actually posted the items before the paypal money had reached his bank account!

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