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 splitty51
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Customised beetles made into utes
I'm thinking about my next project and i'm really keen on a 50's style ute but can't shake off the vw bug. Can't afford 2 projects and even
dearer are the early single cab kombi's. I've seen a few beetles that have been chopped and made into utes and the idea sounds fun. Does anyone have
any pics of beetle-utes? Any ideas? For/against. Engineering expectations, etc.
I'll update on my progress if there's any interest. It'll be different, it has to be.
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| posted on February 24th, 2011 at 09:48 PM |
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It's been done a fair few times, and some of them look quite good. The main problems you will have are that the tray will be quite small, and it's
difficult to work out what to do with the rear end bodywork and engine access. The most successful ones tend to cut the body flat just above the hinge
of the engine lid and lay a flat tray straight over the top of the lot. If you do this it definitely won't look like an old-style ute though. Really
a bug is too small to look like an early pickup, as they had the tray in between the fenders usually. If you built a tray between the fenders of a bug
it would be less than a metre wide and would look quite silly!
Here's some photos for ideas.
And an ancient thread from this very forum!
http://aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?fid=25&tid=74339
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 08:03 AM |
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If you like VW utes but can't afford two projects, and you want something different, how about a T3 pickup?
These have not reached classis car status yet so they are still affordable. They didn't sell a great deal of them in Australia so they are quite
unusual, but they sold heaps of them in Europe so parts are easy to get. They are already utes so there's no radical modifying required. They are
more modern and comfortable than old Beetles / Kombis.
No one has made a really nice restord / customised T3 ute yet, so you could start a new trend.
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 08:28 AM |
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there are a few unfinished beetle Ute's on the net 4sale why don't you buy one of those before you chop up one.
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 08:48 AM |
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where?
C'mon kids gather round,
there's a new sensation hitting town,
It's moving straight, low to the ground,
it'll pick you up when your feeling down.
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 09:20 AM |
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WHy not buy this one, all the hard works done and it means yet another one isn't cut up to make it.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=88605
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 10:54 AM |
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posted by Phil74Camper
If you like VW utes but can't afford two projects, and you want something different, how about a T3 pickup?
These have not reached classis car status yet so they are still affordable. They didn't sell a great deal of them in Australia so they are quite
unusual, but they sold heaps of them in Europe so parts are easy to get. They are already utes so there's no radical modifying required. They are
more modern and comfortable than old Beetles / Kombis.
No one has made a really nice restord / customised T3 ute yet, so you could start a new trend.
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I just love T3s Phil....
and You see heaps of them for sale in UK magazines for very little money....
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 11:54 AM |
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Because of the engine size taxes in Europe they also made the T3s with a 1600 pancake engine, so as you can imagine there's alot of cheap T3s with
dead or dying engines over there.
I've only ever seen pics in pommy magazines of these engines but they were a 1600 type1 and are the most bastardised VW motor you will ever see.
The block was like a type3 with the filler but had a built in oil filter like a type4, the cooling shroud of a type4 and a single beetle carby.
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 12:18 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
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posted by Phil74Camper
If you like VW utes but can't afford two projects, and you want something different, how about a T3 pickup?
These have not reached classis car status yet so they are still affordable. They didn't sell a great deal of them in Australia so they are quite
unusual, but they sold heaps of them in Europe so parts are easy to get. They are already utes so there's no radical modifying required. They are
more modern and comfortable than old Beetles / Kombis.
No one has made a really nice restord / customised T3 ute yet, so you could start a new trend.
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I just love T3s Phil....
and You see heaps of them for sale in UK magazines for very little money....
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Max French at Taree used to have a Type 3 ute, and it looked quite good. I looked for a photo of it last night when I first saw this thread, but it
must have been before I had a digital camera and computer.
From your ole' mate Jeff
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 01:03 PM |
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My dad made one when i was a boy, i can try and find a photo if you like. It was pre 67, he got the vertical cut line rolled so there wasnt a nasty
line for the join. Also he just ran a flat bed and it worked well. I think he used a pancake engine to aid clerence... sorry cannot remember what he
did for the rear wheels
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 01:38 PM |
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That first one posted sitting on the chrome Fuchs is MINT
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 02:19 PM |
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Thanks guys. The beetle i'm chopping is actually a dodgy convertible that i'm resurrecting by putting half a roof on so i'm not really destroying
any classics hence my other post searching for a roof section. The t3 pickup is nice but lacks that '50s rod look that i'll be going for. Tray size
isn't that important to me as I won't be using it for work, I just hope I get the lines right and it's in proportion. I wonder what the RTA will be
looking for. Anyone know any good auto engineers in syd?
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 02:45 PM |
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I use to drive this one around as a weekend work car a few years ago. The one thing i remember with it is it didn't really get to much air flow and
heated up fairly often.
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 03:10 PM |
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Thats the biggest problem with them is getting cool air to the engine.
People make the mistake of using a type3 pancake engine and just leaving the fan intake open so all it does is suck in all the hot air off the heads
and exhaust.
Scoops in the lower quarter panels ducted to a type1 shroud would work well.
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 05:05 PM |
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style side with proper type 3 ducting would be the go!
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 05:10 PM |
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theres on on ebay at the moment
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 06:33 PM |
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This would be the best one I have found- this is how I am building the body for my Drag Car-good to have something to copy.
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 06:45 PM |
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nbturbo, that is nicely done! Also, if your username refers to you owning a turbocharged MX-5, then you are a legend!
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 07:10 PM |
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hot rod looks the best. anyone know of any finished photos??????
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 07:36 PM |
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Sorry mate-have got a turbo New Beetle-but the wife still reckons I'm a legend.
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Miata turbos are the bomb 
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| posted on February 25th, 2011 at 07:52 PM |
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ian, that is some ugly shit! nb b_e_a_ute_iful!
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| posted on February 26th, 2011 at 01:05 AM |
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Maybe you can make a NB ute nbturbo
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| posted on February 26th, 2011 at 08:33 AM |
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This one was built in the eighties by a close mate of mine back then. They were a Volksie family through and through and Brad that owned it was a true
perfectionist so I would expect that although it's been resprayed a different colour, the paint and body would still be very good, they owned it into
the mid ninties at least. It had a type 3 engine/cooling but IIRC also ran a bit warm...!
The ute I built (also in the eighties) used a type 1 engine and had 1/4 panel ducts, Fiat X19 side scoops, connected to 2x 6" hoses directed straight
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Maybe you can make a NB ute nbturbo
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Man that's disgusting, although still 32.6 times better than 99% of all post 2000 cars.
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Man that's disgusting, although still 32.6 times better than 99% of all post 2000 cars.
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No more uglier then this one
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that looks pretty good i recon
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This isn't a bad look. It's got the hotrod look to it.
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Maybe you can make a NB ute nbturbo
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Man that's disgusting, although still 32.6 times better than 99% of all post 2000 cars.
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I actually think it looks pretty good! Still, an aquired taste I guess
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