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Getting a rod registered in Vic


Hey all,
I'm in the process of rodding up a dub as some of would have seen in this forum.

I'm more of a cut first, ask questions later sort of guy. But I would like to hear from other volksrodders about any issues they had or are having with road or rod reg.

I decided on a 4" chop because it sits well without distorting the awesome shape the vw's already have, plus I've read on hear that a 4" chop would still be legal. In saying that the car was always going to receive a 4" chop, anything less than that, is not even worth the effort.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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posted on November 13th, 2011 at 08:33 PM



If you don't start by contacting a VASS engineer as listed on the VicRoads website, you will never get anywhere.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/53CADBC4-D8FF-41DA-8EE6-BE54CDCC8...




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posted on November 13th, 2011 at 09:08 PM



Thanks for the tip helbus. I have already been in contact with Vic roads and spoken to a few VASS engineers. To date I have contacted 3 VASS engineers and they all have given me the same answer " Not to sure, look up the up the vicroads web site and see whats allowed" Not the help I was expecting. The reason I've asked on this forum is in the hope that someone would know a Vass Engineer that has dealt with volksrods.
Once again thanks for your input and the link :tu:
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posted on November 13th, 2011 at 11:17 PM



I contacted a few vass engineers early on when i was starting my chop (5" in a posts)
There was very little interest from any one I spoke to, they were talking progress inspections, torsional twist tests, visibility from the drivers seated position, and at what cost,
There is info on vic roads website , but you need to get an engineer on board
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posted on November 15th, 2011 at 06:16 PM



Let's see The heading is clear. 55 views and only 2 replies with this many members on the site, I find it hard to believe that there isn't 1 single road or rod registered bug, or 1 member that has not gone through the process before. Come on guy's sharing caring, help the Fat fella out A ;).
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posted on November 15th, 2011 at 06:59 PM



I have been involved in a 40mm chop on a car, and it was looked at by Frank Fordham VASS. It wasn't a VW, but the simple thing is to look through the NCOP National Code of Practice

VSB 14 will give you plenty of info. If your chop wont fit within some of these parameters, it cannot be done. If you can do everything within this Bulletin, then your VASS will allow it.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx 




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posted on November 15th, 2011 at 07:10 PM



VSB14 is what I have used for the dozens of cars I have been involved with VASS.



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posted on November 15th, 2011 at 08:15 PM



You da man helbus. I still think it would be great for all, if there was more involvement with these issues.
I have searched High and Low on the site with little info, maybe regs could be posted up with a sticky thingy after all this section is dedicated to Rat's N Rod's.
It would be nice to have a VASS engineer on board save alot of people alot $$$ and time.

My point still stands Only 2 people prepared to help out a fellow dubber.

You are a champion as far as I'm concerned helbus.
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posted on November 15th, 2011 at 09:13 PM



I do know of a VW knowledgeable VASS. Try Bill Malkoutzis. He would be known by a few of the VW Forum members.



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posted on November 16th, 2011 at 09:46 PM



Once again thanks helbus. VSB14 was the 1st bit of info I down loaded prior to the cut, then a reg from vicroads regarding vision. I read both and decided that the 4" chop will fall well within the criteria. I waited a week to hear back from vicroads only for them to say 4" is way too much chop spoke to 3 vass engineers, one prior to the chop and two after, same answer, at least the 1st one pointed me in the direction of the VSB14 literature.
I've done a little home work and decided to test the drivers vision.

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posted on November 16th, 2011 at 09:58 PM



I think the math is right:crazy:
I then placed a pole out at 11mt worked out seat hight and middle of seat travel, it actually comes close to standard. The laser in the car is set to 760mm above seat hight as per diagram attached. Turned on the laser made a mark on the pole out at 11 mt, clamped extra pole 1.95 mt long up from laser line, went back sat in the car and without bobbing or moving in the car could see both below the pole (ground level) and well above.

Hope this will come in handy for anybody that is thinking twice about a chop.;)
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posted on November 25th, 2011 at 08:07 PM



u need to have it passsed by the only engineer in vic allowed to do it, jean-Christophe who is the guy that does all the hotrods in vic, i know of no legally registered volksrod in the country full stop.....im hoping to have the first one.....



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posted on November 25th, 2011 at 08:09 PM



beam extension seems to be the biggest issue......ill let u know more when i do.......also depends on how much u mod suspension...etc....r u just roof chopping...?



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posted on November 25th, 2011 at 10:40 PM



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i know of no legally registered volksrod in the country full stop....
Are you talking full rego? I think these are at least club rego'd....

http://www.adlerbike.com/volksrod/images/IMG_1176.jpg

http://www.hotrodmattimages.com/hobson/ShaneTemp/images/8226v1.jpg

http://www.adlerbike.com/volksrod/images/20071027shootstestfugi0.jpg

http://www.adlerbike.com/volksrod/images/102_0351.jpg

Im not really sure about THIS one...
http://www.adlerbike.com/volksrod/images/027_ringo.jpg

Or THIS one....
http://www.adlerbike.com/volksrod/images/2520159357_3f25334dc2_b.jpg




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posted on November 26th, 2011 at 06:05 AM



yes...but are these actually legally registered....you can stick a number plate on anything and say its got rego......i can get mine done now..but ill be screwed first time i get pulled over.....you know what im saying.........if these above cases are actually regoed id love to know how they got beam through..thats the holy grail part....the rest is do able.....well with money....haha......



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posted on November 26th, 2011 at 08:10 AM



yeh, I know what your saying. I think I read here on another thread that the WA registered bug actually extended the origional floor frame head for WA from a beam extension he had in another state to get it passed there.

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=81647&page=1#pid828266




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posted on November 26th, 2011 at 02:04 PM



ah ok...stand corrected...:) looks like a few have been....i chatted more about mine today, and all on track..i wont be doing beam extension until next year..and we are remaking it the right way, yep needs xraying, cert welding etc etc.....



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posted on November 26th, 2011 at 02:06 PM



hey ran,VWMA mag issues aug to oct 09, aug to oct 08, and nov 08 to jan 09, have good articles on a couple of the cars above. cheers,pete
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posted on November 26th, 2011 at 02:07 PM



oops, stuffed up, middle one aug to oct 10 not 08, pete
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posted on November 26th, 2011 at 03:37 PM



cheers pete will see if i can find those issues



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posted on November 26th, 2011 at 08:00 PM



if you can't, pm me your address and you can have them. i've read em about 50 times!
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posted on November 27th, 2011 at 09:21 PM



Quote:
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beam extension seems to be the biggest issue......ill let u know more when i do.......also depends on how much u mod suspension...etc....r u just roof chopping...?

Just looking at the roof chop, maybe some channeling. The bug is going to have full fenders and a bug engine.

Thanks for your input ran5
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posted on December 1st, 2011 at 11:24 AM



I followed up "old bugger" advice and contacted VWMA mag on Monday, had the 3 editions in my hands on Tuesday. Excellent service.



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posted on December 1st, 2011 at 05:55 PM



hey ran, posted them on tuesday, should be there soon, pete
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posted on January 28th, 2012 at 11:09 AM



Got mags, thanx so much, will get stuck into reading them....



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posted on January 30th, 2012 at 09:23 AM



Would imagine you may have considered this already? How about throwing her on a late model pan putting guards on her and running her as a chopped Beetle. Nice wheels narrowed beam, low down in the weeds, the thing would look way cool just like that!

Would imagine you would get past all the rego hassles a lot
easier that way as well!
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posted on January 31st, 2012 at 07:47 PM



Thats pretty much what is going to happen with this bug. I'm looking for a 71 non super pan, the alterations are minor. Thanks for the input.
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posted on January 31st, 2012 at 08:26 PM



Quote:
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u need to have it passsed by the only engineer in vic allowed to do it, jean-Christophe who is the guy that does all the hotrods in vic, i know of no legally registered volksrod in the country full stop.....im hoping to have the first one.....

stop talkin crap mine is legally registered.:no:




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yes.gif posted on February 1st, 2012 at 02:38 PM



Quote:
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u need to have it passsed by the only engineer in vic allowed to do it, jean-Christophe who is the guy that does all the hotrods in vic, i know of no legally registered volksrod in the country full stop.....im hoping to have the first one.....

stop talkin crap mine is legally registered.:no:


maybe have a read of thread, that has already been established.....




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posted on February 2nd, 2012 at 07:50 PM



Quote:
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by ran5
u need to have it passsed by the only engineer in vic allowed to do it, jean-Christophe who is the guy that does all the hotrods in vic, i know of no legally registered volksrod in the country full stop.....im hoping to have the first one.....

stop talkin crap mine is legally registered.:no:


maybe have a read of thread, that has already been established.....

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