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 jamiesc
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| posted on December 28th, 2011 at 09:01 PM |
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gear changing problem
i have a problem with my gearbox i had recently pulled my engine out to put in new scat rockers, clutch for , bush kit, clutch cable, another pressure
plate and when i bolted it back in i had trouble with the gears slipping in 2nd 3rd 4th and it wouldnt go in reverse but i adjusted it more and then
it wasnt slipping at all and was going in every gear then first gear started to be a lil trouble it would shutter when you go to take of and now im
having troubles to get it in reverse 1st and 2nd like my clutch isnt in and i ajusted my clutch more but it didnt help
can anybody help me ann help much appreciated
cheers jamie
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| posted on December 28th, 2011 at 09:58 PM |
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did you put in a new bowden tube? maybe too little or too much bend in it.
maybe try letting clutch adjust out until you have lots of pedal free play then back
just enough to still have 25-30mm free play.
or maybe gear selector gate at gear stick is way out and needs re adjustment?
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jamiesc
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| posted on December 28th, 2011 at 10:22 PM |
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posted by cesiumfrog
did you put in a new bowden tube? maybe too little or too much bend in it.
maybe try letting clutch adjust out until you have lots of pedal free play then back
just enough to still have 25-30mm free play.
or maybe gear selector gate at gear stick is way out and needs re adjustment?
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no i havnt put a new bowden tube in yet and i was just reading about the bowden bend im not 100% of it its bent but ill check and yeah i had
previously ajusted it one click at a time and it came good the went the way it was befor and how would i adjust the gear selector ?
could it also be cause if i have a bad shifter?
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| posted on December 28th, 2011 at 11:09 PM |
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If it jumps outta gear that a g/box problem with the synchros. That means a rebuilt/new box.
If it's hard to get in gear you need to check how good the platic bush in the tunnel behind the lever is plus the rear coupling. Too much play in
these will mean poor shifting.
Once they are in good condition you can adjust the plate under the gearstick housing as per the manual.
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jamiesc
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| posted on December 28th, 2011 at 11:20 PM |
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posted by psimitar
If it jumps outta gear that a g/box problem with the synchros. That means a rebuilt/new box.
If it's hard to get in gear you need to check how good the platic bush in the tunnel behind the lever is plus the rear coupling. Too much play in
these will mean poor shifting.
Once they are in good condition you can adjust the plate under the gearstick housing as per the manual.
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did you mean the bowden tube or the bush kit in the clutch for if you mean in the clutch fork there brand new psimitar
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| posted on December 29th, 2011 at 06:10 AM |
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No no. On the gearstick it connects to a rod inside the floorpan centre spine. Just behind the gearstick is a support bracket that has a plastic bush
for the gearstick rod to slide within and then at the rear of the floorpan spine is an inspection cover, under the rear seat, that allow access to the
rear gear coupling. This has stiff rubber bushes in too but over time the rear coupling rubbers and the front plastic bush wear so you end up with a
sloppy gearstick and difficult gear changes.
Also did you note the thickness of the clutch plate when the engine was out the car? If your clutch is low then even properly adjusted you will find
it harder to select gears.
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| posted on December 29th, 2011 at 09:26 AM |
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Replace bushing near gearstick. Clean grease and tighten rear shift rod bushing. New genuine Bowden tube and reset the gearstick mount once all
replaced. Should be fine keep going
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jamiesc
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 08:41 PM |
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okay so i had a proper look today and am going to space my bowden tube a little more but i could find my rear shift rod bushing kinda
is a bugger cause each time i look at it i cant drive it hope i can sort it out soon
thanks for the help everybody
cheers jamie
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| posted on January 4th, 2012 at 07:07 AM |
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The gear shift coupling and plastic bush in the tunnel (near the stick),
are areas that should be replaced as a matter of maintenance over time,
but since you have replaced the parts in the clutch fork area, my guess is that this is where you should be looking.
Your symptom of difficulty with reverse and 1st/2nd, are normally associated with the clutch not disengaging.
This can be adjustment in either direction.
If the diafragm fingers are hitting on the disc when the pedal is fully depressed,
you need to back off the adjustment nut/wing nut.
but in usual instances, the adjustment needs to be wound up to let the pressure plate disengage from the disc.
Also you mention replacing the clutch pressure plate and fork?
Make sure the pressure plate is the correct one for your throw out bearing model,
and that your "new fork and bush" are not the crap quality ones that allow the bush to squeeze out,
and position the throw out bearing off centre.
Original VW parts in this area when ever possible!!
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jamiesc
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| posted on January 4th, 2012 at 09:26 PM |
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posted by dangerous
The gear shift coupling and plastic bush in the tunnel (near the stick),
are areas that should be replaced as a matter of maintenance over time,
but since you have replaced the parts in the clutch fork area, my guess is that this is where you should be looking.
Your symptom of difficulty with reverse and 1st/2nd, are normally associated with the clutch not disengaging.
This can be adjustment in either direction.
If the diafragm fingers are hitting on the disc when the pedal is fully depressed,
you need to back off the adjustment nut/wing nut.
but in usual instances, the adjustment needs to be wound up to let the pressure plate disengage from the disc.
Also you mention replacing the clutch pressure plate and fork?
Make sure the pressure plate is the correct one for your throw out bearing model,
and that your "new fork and bush" are not the crap quality ones that allow the bush to squeeze out,
and position the throw out bearing off centre.
Original VW parts in this area when ever possible!!
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thanks dangerous i woke up nice and bright this morning and found out someone made an inspection plate above where the clutch cable clips on to the
clutch and it was the outter tube the welds were broken up the front and back and the outter tube was pushed about 5 cm to the front of the car and i
got my uncle to weld the tube back into place and for free of charge he even welded a crack that i had in the guard up and got bog over it and under
coast i will paint it tomorrow this made my day now she is running beautiful no shutter anymore or gear changing problems
cheers for the help jamie
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