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 TCS_58
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| posted on January 2nd, 2012 at 07:07 PM |
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Straight question, need straight answers
Hey guys, I know this has probably been spoken about a fair bit but I really can't find what I need. So, can someone please please give me a detailed
explanation and even better, pass on any links to diagrams, on how the heat exchanger system works on type 1 beetles, I have a 58. As I am doing an
engine swap and want to see if I can rig up a heating/demisting system for the car using both models if I have to. If anyone has attempted to install
aircon that would be great too. Really just looking for knowledge here guys as it's holding up the build planning quite a bit and your wisdom would
be greatly appreciated.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2012 at 08:31 PM |
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is this what you are after ????????
http://www.iceac.com/Articles/install_ac/index1.html
http://www.gilmore-enterprises.net/Air/Beetle.htm
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 08:01 AM |
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A later heating system will work in a early car, as for the aircon you might be able to adapt one to your car, you do not mention what engine you want
to fit, search the samba for information.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 08:27 AM |
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what engine are you putting back in the 1958 beetle?
A 1950's engine, or a later engine?
Thats a starting point, as the early heat exchangers are different to the later ones.
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 posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 08:50 AM |
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early heater - the hot air from the engine was redirected into the car with square metal flaps behind the pushrod tubes
about ?? 1962 they changed to the fresh air heating where the air doesn't go over the engine but they have heater boxes where the air goes thru and
gets hot...
the heater boxes are part of the exhaust...
air conditioning is difficult and expensive in a beetle..
most kits are for LHD only...
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 09:10 AM |
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What do you call an engine swap?
to a later VW engine or something watercooled?
I've got A/C in mine but It's a Subaru engine and in a late Superbug so doesn't really apply to your car.
But there is more and more being fitted with A/C all the time.
The Retro air units sit snugly under the dash of flat screen beetles.
Just gotta find somewhere good for the condenser then as well as mount the compressor and run the hoses.
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 12:32 PM |
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PIC OF TWO DIFFERENT AIR CON.. MODS..
LEE
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 PM |
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What about the new 4WD rear mount ELECTRIC units.......sounds like a system that might adapt to a VW well.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 01:33 PM |
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In my opinion a straight answer would be to forget the air conditioning. Air cooled VW's are cool enough as they are.
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| posted on January 3rd, 2012 at 08:07 PM |
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Till summer hits 40c.... then let me hear you say that again 
It's not that hard, bout half of the bugs sold in the 70s in the US had A/C
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| posted on January 7th, 2012 at 07:09 PM |
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Thanks for all the info guys. The air-con isn't a necessity, more a "what-if" option for me at the moment anyway, as I'm really only concerned
with the heater/demister system at the moment for the rego guys. The engine that's going in the 58 will be a 13B out of a S5 if I ever find
one.....So I'm starting to look at the VW system and the RX7 system to see how I can go about merging the two. @ 68autobug, thanks for putting up
that pic of the compressor on the left hand side, that mount might work out quite well for what I have in mind. Back to the heater tubes, I'm
thinking of fabbing up my own designed heater tube that will accomodate both heater channels off the custom exhaust for the car. Probably further down
the system rather than near the headers as rotary exhaust temps are alot hotter than piston engines.
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| posted on January 8th, 2012 at 01:53 PM |
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Why don't you do the obvious, fit a heater out of a water cooled car.
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| posted on January 8th, 2012 at 02:31 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vwo60
Why don't you do the obvious, fit a heater out of a water cooled car.
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I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
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