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| posted on January 5th, 2012 at 11:31 PM |
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Wheel Issue
Hey all!
Been a while since I posted up here. Currently in Italy!
Anyway, I'm looking for some wheels that'll look decent on a fat chick. Don't care on price, just need some inspiration!
A couple of people have talked about just getting 914 wheels and throwing them on and adding a little low. Let's just say, I want something a little
bigger.
I'm thinking 17" will be plenty to fill Zelda's fenders. I've got a few tricks up my sleeve for when I get back, but need to decide on wheels
before anything else happens.
Any help would be appreciated, post up images, post up links, anything!
(OH, and I'll be upgrading my brake rotors to whatever bolt pattern is needed for the best looking wheel on here, so that isn't an issue either.)
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 09:01 AM |
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What about a set of composite wheels, you can have them made to suit any aplication
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 09:30 AM |
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Hi
Fat chicks can be a hassle to get the right wheels for.
To get a decent wheel in the front you will need skinny struts, the 1303 or L bug has a much wider track on the front so wheel offset needs to be
looked at carefully.
My sons bug runs 17x7 55et BBS wheels from a Subaru, these are 5x100 pcd, these fit great on the front apart from the grease cap needing to be trimmed
down.
These same Subaru wheels on the back of my sons car went in way to far, so I fitted 944 rear suspension and brakes, the brake themselves widen the
track 25 mm per side and allow the wheels to fit nice on the rear.
As said above composite wheel would avoid this hassle as you could select a different offset front an rear.
Joel the man of many wheels may chime in here.
Does your car have 2 bolt or 3 bolt struts?
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 10:45 AM |
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Steve,
First of all, thanks for your veryveryvery informative response! Bloody hell those wheels look great too, wouldn't mind them in black or something
though!
They sit so perfectly too, exactly how I want mine to fit on Zelda.
I'm definitely going to have a look and see how much I can get a set for, but they definitely look awesome.
I'm sure Joel has way too many sets of wheels floating around, I'm sure he can spread some more light on my needs.
Hell, I'd even be tempted to buy some off of him if he isn't using them!
Can't wait to get back to her, miss driving her way too much. Not long now though!
Keep the wheels coming!
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 11:00 AM |
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Hi
No worries, I only paid $400 with tyres for the BBS wheels, that was the cheap part.
Steve
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 11:11 AM |
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Damn that is cheap!
I've seen places selling them for over 1k at the moment...
Obviously looking in the wrong place.
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 11:33 AM |
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Hi
Another thing, the choice is your as far as stud pattern goes, 5x100 is pretty small, and I wasn't able to run the centre cap on the front because
the grease cap pokes out too far.
Have a look at Jak Rizzos 72 Superbug on here, I think he's running Ford pattern.
I bought the BBS wheels from a Bob Jane outlet.
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 12:17 PM |
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Basically the plan is to purchase the wheels I want first and then get everything else to make them fit.
I'll go through http://www.volksconversions.com.au/ for my brakes and so
forth and he makes custom bolt patterns so that isn't a problem.
The only thing that I am somewhat worried about (what you mentioned) was that they won't fill the guards.
With the suspension setup that I am going with, they will fill the guards as that is what they'll have to do.
Albeit my suspension setup will be somewhat different to what is found on most 1303's, it'll definitely put Zelda a part from the rest.
Basically, wheels will set what Zelda will have, off. If they're the right wheel, the right tire combo and the right suspension setup, she'll be
quite the stunner.
Will head down to the local Bob Jane outlet when I get back to Adelaide and see what they have in stock. Just as long as it will look good, that is my
main concern at the moment, they'll just be dress shoes so to speak...
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 02:21 PM |
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Hi
You can have a good look through this site, http://f1wheelandtyre.com.au to find
the size and offset that you want. We bought some wheels for my sons Skyline from them and they were very competitive on price.
You need to work out what ET & size suits your setup. A 7 inch 23 ET (Fuchs etc) wheel will fit OK in the rear wheel arch.
So tell me more about your suspension.
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 04:34 PM |
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Basically the plan is to purchase the wheels I want first and then get everything else to make them fit.
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If you're sticking with stock fenders and stock brakes then you'll want ET40ish rims in 7-7.5"
I've got some et45s and they rub the struts abit on hard cornering
If i had my time over again I'd go 5x100
4x100 is still very common but as more and more manufactures go 5 stud due to better wheel centering the rim market is changing to 5 stud.
As Steve said center caps can be an issue.
To give you a fitment idea this is mine on 17x7et40 rims.
yours is same 3 bolt setup, you'll just need some slim line struts
I had 205/40s on the front as it was lower than that pic and anything wider rubbed but I'm now happily on 215/40 all round.
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| posted on January 6th, 2012 at 11:36 PM |
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Personally going to 5x114.3 It gives you a massive range of wheels to fit your car in terms of size and offset.Going 5x100 limits your choice a bit.
I have a mate with a libertyB4 and hes having no end of trouble to find rims with a decent offset in 5x100.
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| posted on January 7th, 2012 at 05:58 AM |
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Hey Joel!
Thanks for your input man, really do apprecite all the information you bring to the table when you post!
I'm going to have to agree with snitz though, it seems a lot more wheel manufactures currently support the 5x114.3 bolt pattern which is probably
what I'm going to go for.
My struts are going to be replaced by something, different... I don't think they'll be an issue but I guess time will tell when it comes to
fitment.
But damn Joel, yours look awesome. They fit perfectly at the front and your ride height is definitely what mine will be...
Thanks again!
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| posted on January 7th, 2012 at 07:12 AM |
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There are a few advantage's the composite wheel has over the other wheels, no change of stud pattern, can be purchased to suit your car exactly, do
not buy a wheel that does not fit and hope that you can modify the car to suit, that is exactly the oposite of how you should do it, when fitting
wheels there are many things that have to be concidered, suspension geometry should be maintained as close as possible to standard so there is no
reduction in drivability, increased wear of suspension is another issue, the legal increase in track is only 25 MM,
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| posted on January 7th, 2012 at 07:45 AM |
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vwo60,
I understand your warning completely, but unfortunately I want something more, different to say the least.
Luckily I have a suspension setup coming that will cater for /every/ need that I will have, hence why I'm wanting to choose the wheel before hand.
I already have a full disc brake conversion lined up, but hopefully before that I'll have a new engine in.
Already said too much, but all good!
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| posted on January 7th, 2012 at 09:32 AM |
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Shh.... secret squirrel !!!
IMO for a fat chick it's hard to go past the BBS style like Joel and Dave C have on their cars...
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Aha yes Sides, definitely Secret Squirrel stuff going on! 
I agree completely with you; this BBS rims look the bees knees and are definitely on the table.
If anything, I'll buy them and get them powder coated a different colour, solely to be different...
I'll be back in Adelaide in a few days now, can't wait to get stuck into her again.
Just to get stuck into her again, will be a great feeling!
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| posted on January 7th, 2012 at 11:38 AM |
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Yes I love my meshies dearly and if you caught my latest vid they are even back on it, well 2 anyway
The biggest down fall of them and the reason i took them off is they are a nightmare to keep clean especially with 4 wheel discs.
As VW060 said buy rims to suit the car not make the car suit the rims.
You know the width and offset if you wanna stick with stock fenders and brakes.
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Personally going to 5x114.3 It gives you a massive range of wheels to fit your car in terms of size and offset.Going 5x100 limits your choice a bit.
I have a mate with a libertyB4 and hes having no end of trouble to find rims with a decent offset in 5x100.
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Thats due to offset, Subaru need alot more positive offset than most cars (et55 on 7" for example) but the actual 5x100 is getting more and more
common, nearly all late model VW, more and more Toyota etc.
But yes 5x114.3 is the better choice depending on what you're after.
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| posted on January 8th, 2012 at 11:25 AM |
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Here's a handy link of stud patterns for you.
Might not have the really new cars as Joel mentioned above. But somewhere to start from.
http://www.boostcruising.com.au/forums/index.php?showtopic=332862
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| posted on January 8th, 2012 at 01:51 PM |
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you can get BBS wheels in composite
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| posted on January 8th, 2012 at 06:45 PM |
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Joel,
I am probably the first view on every single one of your new videos. Subscribed and loving your YouTube channel.
And yes, I did notice that you do have two on, but who cares, mismatching wheels is always fun, I see way too many cars on the road these days with
stockies on the back and 20"s on the front. I think we can all guess why...
Alright, so the maximum width I am probably looking at going is 7.5" with an offset of et40, but most people like to stick with a 7" wide rim. As
soon as I get back into Adelaide I'll head down to as many wheel places as I can to take a look at what they have available with those prerequisites.
Then I'll just need to get brakes to match the wheel bolt pattern, which isn't difficult and I wanted to have discs all around anyway, what with all
the new stuff going in her...
I'm definitely keen on running the same "look" rims as you and Steve have got on your beetles. Seems it's the general consensus to run some sort
of BBS look rims.
Smiley,
Woah, thanks for that, definitely gives me an even bigger idea of the amount of bolt patterns that are available. Damn!
vwo60,
Can you link me to a website or something? Would love to check them out.
I googled composite wheels and found plastic stuff for bike wheels? :P
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http://www.roh.com.au/modularseries.php
http://www.metalspinnersaust.com.au/metal-spun-wheels.html
http://www.ozwheelaustralia.com.au/picture-gallery/custom-made-3-piece-wheels...
http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/pages/wheels_cast.html
http://www.workwheelsusa.com/product.php?category=29&wheel=85
Only depends on how large your wallet is.
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Once you're home just keep an eye on ebay in the wheels and tyres section in the Adelaide area and something will pop up pretty quick especially if
you go a common stud pattern.
That's where most of mine come from.
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Those et55 bbs wheels come up for sale on ozliberty and they seem to find them hard to shift if you want a set.
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| posted on January 9th, 2012 at 01:20 AM |
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vwo60,
Damn they can get expensive, thanks for the links though, more rim porn than meets the eye!
Joel,
Sounds like a plan. eBay and Gumtree will probably be where I'll be looking for wheels, that and the local shops too.
cam070,
Unfortunately et55 is way too much of an offset, I need et40 to stick with stock width brakes from what I understand...
Thanks everyone for all the information, really do appreciate it!
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Just read a thread on here that got quite heated when discussing disc brake conversions...
Joel, what's your setup consist of? I'm going to assume you got the brakes off another car and then installed them appropriately?
Might be worth me going down to the wreckers and prying off some or something...
Original plan may be going down the drain since hearing stuff about volksconversions, but not 100% yet.
Might find someone in Adelaide that'll do rotors and the sort.
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All the bitching about Volksconversions kits you've been reading is for early wide 5 discs.
I've got a stock setup on the front just with cross drilled discs and Volksconversions kit on the back which uses Porsche 914 Discs and rotors with
Fiat 128 Spider Calipers but there is all sorts of kits out there.
Finding one that doesnt widen the rear track is tricky.
That's the worst part of using Porsche 944 rear end.
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Ah okay, I am kinda worried, but I guess if he's making the rotors custom for Zelda than there shouldn't be an issue...
I need to find a kit so that I can run the same setup as you, basically.
As I'll just be going on the same bolt pattern as you so I might invest my time in searching into everything a little bit more.
Yeah, I don't want to wide the track at all.
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I would honestly go 5x114.3.
There is still lots of choice out there for 4x100 but the manufacturers are phasing out 4 stud so that will change over time as the 90s cars die out.
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5x114.3 it has been decided!
I'll look into getting disc brakes from a car that already has this setup and look into installing them onto Zelda.
Then will come wheel shopping!
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You can buy a bolt on kit from several places that you can order with that stud pattern.
You will save yourself alot of grief going that way instead of trying to piece something together from junk yard parts.
Which would end up costing similar in the end anyway.
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