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| posted on January 28th, 2012 at 10:38 PM |
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How do I tell what year the body is on my car
Hi guys,
Have been looking at some pictures lately and it has me thinking - what body is my car
I have bought it as it is.So somebody may have done a body change at some point or would they have changed the deck lid,bonnet and guards? The guy I
bought it from said the work had already been done.
It's registered as a 70 but the deck lid and bonnet look like a 60's.
I have noticed that I have horn grills but have not seen them on other 70's models.
I have 50/50 tail lights (noticed a lot of 68 models have reverse lights -does this mean mine should have them?
Not sure what else I should look at to try to see some differences. -size of the glass etc
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 06:43 AM |
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Looks like a 1970 to me. What is the chassis number.
All of the bolt on bits are from earlier '60s. (Guards, lights etc)
Reversing lights didn't come out until around '71/'72.
That's a really nice looking Beetle you've got there.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 07:42 AM |
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Hi
Body looks like a 1969-70 model - large glass and lockable fuel flap - late doors with one piece windows..
Guards- tail lamps- bumpers and bonnet from pre-1968 models
tail lamps were used from 1962 to 1967..
rear engine lid pre 1964 - 64 had wider licence plate lamp housing
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Hi guys,
Have been looking at some pictures lately and it has me thinking - what body is my car
I have bought it as it is.So somebody may have done a body change at some point or would they have changed the deck lid,bonnet and guards? The guy I
bought it from said the work had already been done.
It's registered as a 70 but the deck lid and bonnet look like a 60's.
I have noticed that I have horn grills but have not seen them on other 70's models.
I have 50/50 tail lights (noticed a lot of 68 models have reverse lights -does this mean mine should have them?
Not sure what else I should look at to try to see some differences. -size of the glass etc
added pictures if that helps
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 08:32 AM |
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Yep as above, late body with early guards, bonnet and decklid (with the matching aprons fitted). The tail lights are '62-'67. 50/50's are 50% red
and 50% yellow, they are very rare and are pretty well Australia only '60-'61, dimensionally they are similar size to an oval's snowflake tail
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 09:07 AM |
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69-70 with early front and rear valance, bonnet and guards. (fuel flap gives it away)
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 09:37 AM |
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Yeah, 68-70 but with earlier stuff as others have said.
To possibly narrow down further... 68-69 had a finger dent to open the fuel filler flap, while 70's had a remote release that they changed for 1971
and later.
Went similar look with Jezebel with the 6V guards and US spec headlights (but kept the later bonnet), W shape engine lid and snowflake tail lights...
only wish she was as pretty as yours !!!
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 09:50 AM |
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68 had finger dent, 69 to 72 was cable release then 73 back to finger dent
Where abouts is the interior light? is it straight above the B-pillar or in the middle above the door?
Also front heater outlets will determine if its 69 or 70.
69 had cables with levers under the dash, 70 didnt.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 10:30 AM |
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68 had finger dent, 69 to 72 was cable release then 73 back to finger dent
Where abouts is the interior light? is it straight above the B-pillar or in the middle above the door?
Also front heater outlets will determine if its 69 or 70.
69 had cables with levers under the dash, 70 didnt.
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Heh, I love all these little differences year to year !!!
I'm sure the 71-72 cable pull is a different setup to a 70 tho Joel... 70 it's all sealed, and 71-72 the cable is exposed. Least has been on every
71-72 I've ever looked at...
69 semi-auto I owned had a finger dent and same front vent setup as my 70... and both have interior light above B pillar.
There were differences around how the wiper arms secured to the drives too, but have found that's not consistent as wiper mechs can be changed.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 11:22 AM |
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the aussie factory used alot of carry over parts to get rid of them.
Correct re. the fuel door cables.
69s had a cable operated front heater outlet with the lever below the dash but that was dropped in 70 for some reason.
And the interior light was moved across in june 70.
1500 Semi-auto bugs were fully imported from Germany so they don't share Aussie built specs exactly to the T but are fairly close.
Also accounts for delays in model upgrades as well.
A mate also had a 1500 Semi-auto, bought from the original lady owner.
It was on the books as being as 69 and the logbooks showed she took delivery in feb 69 but it still had an old 118 chassis number and other 68 specs-
old speedo, finger open door flap, 2 tone wheels etc etc
But then mine is on the books as being a 75 for the same reasons even though its all 74 spec.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 02:14 PM |
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It was on the books as being as 69 and the logbooks showed she took delivery in feb 69 but it still had an old 118 chassis number and other 68 specs-
old speedo, finger open door flap, 2 tone wheels etc etc
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Why did she think that it was a '69?
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 02:39 PM |
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Cos she went and bought it brand new well into 69 and the dealership sold it to her as being a 69 and so the rego papers also say 69.
Same deal with mine, bought new from Greg Cussak Motors 17th of Jan 75 so it's listed as being a 75 even though its build date is 9/74 and has a 134
vin.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 04:18 PM |
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Same deal with mine, bought new from Greg Cussak Motors 17th of Jan 75 so it's listed as being a 75 even though its build date is 9/74 and has a 134
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You could not have bought a '75 model in Jan '75.
A lot of people get confused with compliance plate dates. They have nothing to do with year model or build date. The date on them is the date that the
plate was put on.
The only way is to look at the VIN.
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I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 04:40 PM |
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i think its the year of awesome!... i love that car!
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 04:44 PM |
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i think its the year of awesome!... i love that car!
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Yeah, it's the nicest styling that I have seen on a Beetle in years.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 05:45 PM |
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You could not have bought a '75 model in Jan '75.
A lot of people get confused with compliance plate dates. They have nothing to do with year model or build date. The date on them is the date that the
plate was put on.
The only way is to look at the VIN.
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You and I both know that but the dumbass motor registery and dealership don't which is the reason it says mine's 75 on the rego papers and logbooks
and Brendans a 69 even though they are both clearly the year before.
Anyway none of that is relevant to the OPs bug.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 08:27 PM |
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies. - I saw this car at the nationals this year and loved it - i was looking at getting one with aero guards as I had them before
- I found a guy selling one at the same time - Nice car (Steve Carters old yellow one) without engine and was tempted but the wife might not have been
impressed with me buying a car with no engine and it sitting around for while until i sorted something out, anyway thanks for your kind comments -
I'm loving (out in it today)
I have to open the fuel cap by finger (no cable or release inside the car)
Interior light above the Pillar
No heater so no outlets carpeted over.
Its registered as a 70 model - Chassis - 1102428623
Just about to upload a short video I took today to YouTube I start a thread for anyone interesting at looking at it.
p.s I have already added a walk around one to YouTube a while back and started a thread on here for it.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 08:39 PM |
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This is something I have been thinking about for a while.
Would I be able to change my head lights to the new beetle ones? (seen heaps for sale on the bay)
No Idea of dimensions or anything (and of course my indicators are located inside the headlamp currently)
just a thought at this stage and wondering what it might look like
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 08:54 PM |
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Wow - I like that chassis number... less than 200 different from mine !!! (March 70 Aussie build)
It's a very sweet ride as is - so just keep enjoyin it I reckon.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 10:24 PM |
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Hi
I reckon the car looks great the way it is, early looks but with anti burst door locks.
A good headlight upgrade seeing as you already have early headlights is to fit some 911 headlight glasses, they fit straight in and look much more
modern.
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| posted on January 29th, 2012 at 11:56 PM |
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This is something I have been thinking about for a while.
Would I be able to change my head lights to the new beetle ones? (seen heaps for sale on the bay)
No Idea of dimensions or anything (and of course my indicators are located inside the headlamp currently)
just a thought at this stage and wondering what it might look like
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You can fit early Porsche headlamp lenses , same size bit different lens...
You car looks great though...
early but Late model.... lol
a bit like the 1967 German beetle... Large glass..
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I have looked at a lot of different headlights but none fit. Angle on the new beetle ones is wrong and new mini headlights are too deep.
You can go porsche 993?
But I would stick with either prsche or early beetle lights
BTW A lot like my car.
69 semi auto with 4 tab bonnet, early apron, aero guards, w decklid with early rear valance.
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| posted on February 1st, 2012 at 01:03 PM |
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Lee you mean the 1965-66 German Beetle, which still had the early headllights.
The German '67 had the upright headlights like the '68 and on.
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