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 64blackbettle
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| posted on March 15th, 2012 at 08:21 PM |
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Smokin 64 Beetle
Hi All, I've just purchased a 64 Beetle and need some wiring done. When I turn the lights on wires start to smoke and get a little hot. I'll put
up a slab for your help or I'll even part with the stuff that folds...if I must. Anyway, if you're in Melb and can give a fellow new bugger a hand
that would be great. Give me a buzz or PM me if you can help. Thanks everyone Dom 0418 133 580
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| posted on March 15th, 2012 at 08:36 PM |
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| posted on March 18th, 2012 at 07:10 PM |
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get someone to turn the ting on while u watch and try and find the point where smoke starts and make sure all open joiners are taped and there are no
shorts
good luck
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| posted on March 18th, 2012 at 07:46 PM |
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Looks like a artisan wired it, you will need a wiring diagram so you can trace the wiring and see what works and what does not.
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| posted on March 18th, 2012 at 08:56 PM |
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Boy, that's a mess!
I like the shot of the workshop through the dash.
This is no job for a beginner methinks.
Someone with a few wiring skills should be able to do a basic tidy up fairly quickly.
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| posted on March 18th, 2012 at 09:32 PM |
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Needs a major re think that wiring,
It's not too difficult, but takes time and patience
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64blackbettle
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| posted on March 19th, 2012 at 09:05 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Boy, that's a mess!
I like the shot of the workshop through the dash.
This is no job for a beginner methinks.
Someone with a few wiring skills should be able to do a basic tidy up fairly quickly.
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Perfectly planned shot of the workbench. I've managed to pull down the mess this was the wiring and label everything...my way. I can now see the
light thru the fog and isolated the main wiring harness, which should make life a little easier. I think I'll start with the lights and work my way
to the ignition.
The melted wire was an ignition wire. Looked very thin. So I replace that with a properly rated wire.
Can some one tell what the white thing is with wires connected to it? It looks like an old house fuse with wiring from the wiper switch going
directly into it.
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64blackbettle
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| posted on March 19th, 2012 at 09:33 PM |
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That white thing isn't connected to the wiper switch. There's a thick RED wire coming out of it and going straight to the fuse box and back into
the ignition switch
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 05:22 AM |
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The white things are ballast resistors. They drop the nominal battery voltage down to approximately half its value. They use resistors in older VW's
so you can still run a 6 volt wiper motor but use a 12 volt battery system.
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Jason
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 07:30 AM |
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Was the car working with the wiring like that? Looks like a very special person put that in :-)
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 10:16 AM |
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No wonder you were getting dead shorts, alot of live uninsulated connectors there.
Charge light socket laying there loose with no bulb would have been playing games with the charging system too.
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 11:38 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ducati998
The white things are ballast resistors. They drop the nominal battery voltage down to approximately half its value. They use resistors in older VW's
so you can still run a 6 volt wiper motor but use a 12 volt battery system.
Cheers
Jason
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Jason, would you recommend replacing the 6v wiper motor with a 12v motor to keep voltage consistant across the car. Or leave it as is?
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 11:49 AM |
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few options with the wipers. new 12v armature can go in the motor itself, or new style reistors/voltage drop units are readily available (drop power
from 12 to 6 to the wiper motor)
that wiring looks better already 
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 12:05 PM |
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my light switch used to smoke when wired incorrectly.
Particularly smoke when i would adjust the dimmer. i had the headlights on the dimmer side, and the dimmer on the headlights wire...
So all in all, i had adjustable dimming headlights lol.
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 12:21 PM |
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few options with the wipers. new 12v armature can go in the motor itself, or new style reistors/voltage drop units are readily available (drop power
from 12 to 6 to the wiper motor)
that wiring looks better already
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I've seen new 12v armatures being installed on youtube. I think i might go down that path. Cheers
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 05:09 PM |
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posted by hellbugged
few options with the wipers. new 12v armature can go in the motor itself, or new style reistors/voltage drop units are readily available (drop power
from 12 to 6 to the wiper motor)
that wiring looks better already
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I've seen new 12v armatures being installed on youtube. I think i might go down that path. Cheers
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Installing a 12v armature eliminates the need for resistors.
Which means less connections in the circuit.
Which means less chances of problems.
So it's got to be better. 
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64blackbettle
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 07:55 PM |
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Was the car working with the wiring like that? Looks like a very special person put that in :-)
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It was working OK, but things started to go smokiel when I switched the lights on
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 08:51 PM |
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If your not worried about originality you could always fit a later 12 volt beetle wiper motor and switch.
Atleast then you would get 2 speeds and not have to deal with those crappy light weight 6 volt wiper arms anymore.
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| posted on March 20th, 2012 at 10:06 PM |
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The 12v option sounds like the way to go. Where's the best place to pick one up from?
The wiring is at least now organised into logical groups. The main loom top right, and the bottom left is for the lights. Now I just need to add the
bits in the middle and I'm done....I hope.
I'll head over to the Auto Elec this weekend and pick up the right sort of wires for the job and some advice and I'll give it a crack at some stage.
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