| [ Total Views: 1753 | Total Replies: 41 | Thread Id: 97167 ] |
| Pages: 1 2 |
|
|
 helbus
A.k.a.: Pete S
Super Administrator
Mad fabricator, paint and body
Posts: 7386
Threads: 312
Registered: September 1st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: In the garage chopping cars into bits
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: In the thinking chair
|
| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 10:20 PM |
|
|
Rego labels being eliminated
WA, SA and NSW are eliminating rego labels.
I hope they do this in Vic soon.
I hate them, They are obtrusive, and not required.
I get a renewal notice. I pay it, and the car is registered. What has the label got to do with it?
At the moment you get a renewal with a label. You can stick the label on without paying it, so the label is no proof of payment.
What are your thoughts?
|
|
|
 esevwbits
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1027
Threads: 143
Registered: June 17th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
Mood: alive!!
|
| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 10:43 PM |
|
|
yeh scrap them. crap idea. and never colour co-ordinates with my vehicle 
|
|
|
55oval
Casual Dubber
Posts: 21
Threads: 8
Registered: February 17th, 2012
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 11:05 PM |
|
|
Not really a concern to me, I just whack it on and forget it till next year.
|
|
|
shaihulud
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1448
Threads: 197
Registered: November 4th, 2005
Member Is Offline
Location: Perth
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 11:28 PM |
|
|
Labels were removed as a cost saving measure and because the police do not need them, without consulting the public here in WA.
There is a large and growing movement to have them returned.
People are saying that there would be prepared to pay a few dollars to have a label. I would.
Now when looking at (kicking tyres) or buying a second hand car you can't see if it is registered and for how long without seeing the rego papers,
at the very beginning. That is a real pain.
I want to see the labels returned ASAP. I have the cut out number of an old label on my windscreen as a reminder.
The removal was done by Troy Buswell (of chair sniffing infamy) the Minister for Transport. It was just another one of his stupid decisions. The man
is an idiot. We would be well rid of him.
|
|
|
helbus
A.k.a.: Pete S
Super Administrator
Mad fabricator, paint and body
Posts: 7386
Threads: 312
Registered: September 1st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: In the garage chopping cars into bits
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: In the thinking chair
|
| posted on May 29th, 2012 at 11:52 PM |
|
|
But because the label is issued without payment, so how is that proof of rego?
|
|
|
68AutoBug
A.k.a.: Lee Noonan
Aircooled Master
Beetle Restorer - Experience over 138% - YIKES --
Posts: 11654
Threads: 449
Registered: August 31st, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: SCONE in UPPER HUNTER VALLEY NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow
Mood: Really Mentally Ill - all of the time -
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 12:35 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
WA, SA and NSW are eliminating rego labels.
I hope they do this in Vic soon.
I hate them, They are obtrusive, and not required.
I get a renewal notice. I pay it, and the car is registered. What has the label got to do with it?
At the moment you get a renewal with a label. You can stick the label on without paying it, so the label is no proof of payment.
What are your thoughts?
|
Yes,
You only need to write the receipt number on the label so it really doesn't mean much..
I have tinted My windows in My beetle apart from the 1/4 windows as I put the rego label on one of them
I was thinking of cutting a hole in the tint [when i do it] to fit the label in... Now I won't have to...
I suppose they do remind You of the rego month...
but My Mail never gets lost, and the 3rd party insurance renewal always comes too..
Maybe You can have one if you want one... lol
and they could be just made as a cheap removeable sticker
rather than the costly way they do it now..
they are just a reminder or token these days as I always pay My rego and insurance on line.. and write the receipt number in it..
its just that they are worthless as far as the Police are concerned
they just put Your rego number in their computer..
I just remembered why they are on the rego paper.. lol
so if You go to a rego office [no one does now] they stick it in a machine... but as that is now optional.. its made the expensive sticker
obsolete..
so a cheap sticker in the color of the month.. lol
and not be compulsory..
LEE
Now if Julia could think things over like that before making them law... lol
- [size=4]Helping keep Air Cooled VWs on the road - location: SCONE in the Upper Hunter Valley - Northern NSW 320 kms NNW of SYDNEY--- [/size]
|
|
|
AA003
A.k.a.: Phill
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1189
Threads: 39
Registered: October 27th, 2011
Member Is Offline
Location: Southern Highlands
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 07:36 AM |
|
|
It will make it easier to swap number plates between vehicles.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
|
|
|
silver
Veteran Volks Folk
Dangerous when poked
Posts: 2169
Threads: 162
Registered: December 8th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: In 2 Minds
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 07:56 AM |
|
|
Number plate recognition technology is very sophisticated so they are no longer necessary. its waste of money having them
Keeping it real !
|
|
|
Governor
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 414
Threads: 23
Registered: November 22nd, 2008
Member Is Offline
Location: in your mind
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: yes please
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 08:03 AM |
|
|
If your a mechanic and after working on a customers vehicle you will now need to check if the vehicle is registered before you can take it for a test
drive.
Also you cant just hop into a mates car to pick stuff up from the shops as you cant see if its registered.
They send the renewal notice 2 months before its due knowing you will put it on the fridge, they then hope you forget so they can fine you for driving
unreg, dont think this is a money saving idea, its a money making idea for the government.
|
|
|
vw54
Super Administrator
Always Waiting 4 Friday
Posts: 16723
Threads: 378
Registered: August 26th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sunny Sydney
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Oval resto ongoing
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 08:21 AM |
|
|
only going to make it easier for the shonks
|
|
|
 matberry
Super Moderator
Go hard or go home
Posts: 8114
Threads: 134
Registered: March 7th, 2006
Member Is Offline
Location: Cooroy Qld
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue
Mood: enjoying waving at all my Kombi buddies from my T3
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 08:43 AM |
|
|
I think it sounds rediculous. In Qld we don't get the label until we pay, no label, no rego.....easy.
As Birch said, it'll make it easy for the crooks
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE
 |
|
|
AA003
A.k.a.: Phill
Custom Title Time!
Posts: 1189
Threads: 39
Registered: October 27th, 2011
Member Is Offline
Location: Southern Highlands
Theme: UltimaBB Streamlined2
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 08:48 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by silver
Number plate recognition technology is very sophisticated so they are no longer necessary.
|
Only for the police.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
|
|
|
1303Steve
A.k.a.: Steve Carter
Scirocco Rare
Posts: 8650
Threads: 564
Registered: August 27th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney, NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Parrot Heading
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 08:55 AM |
|
|
Hi
I find the new labels are really good they come off easily each year I always turn small dog ear in the corner to make it easier, how bad were the old
ones that you had to soak in water and then wipe down to remove the gum behind them otherwise they would craze.
I think this is as sensible as not needing a rego check on new cars for 5 years.
Maybe they want people to buy cars that are unregistered and then get caught driving so that they can be fined.
Steve
|
|
|
Uber Kafer
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 414
Threads: 50
Registered: November 12th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Bunbury (BunVegas) WA
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Need a bigger shed..
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 09:10 AM |
|
|
Its a con. The pollies say that it saves money. But the cost was already built into the annual registration.
A major downside to this change is that people will be inadvertantly driving cars that are not registered, and that registration includes third party
personal insurance. So there will be accidents, people will be seriously injured, and there will no insurance cover. Imagine that, you get cleaned
up by someone who has forgotten to pay their rego, you have a serious long term disability, and no-one to pay for it. Never, zilch, nada.
All well and good if you manage your own rego, its other people you need to be scared of.
|
|
|
modulus
A.k.a.: Peter Hill
Veteran Volks Folk
Posts: 2009
Threads: 76
Registered: July 1st, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro White
Mood: modular
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 09:17 AM |
|
|
I look at rego labels to find out what year a car was 1st registered; in Vic we do not even have to write the receipt number, so the label is no proof
of current registration.
|
|
|
waveman1500
Custom Title Time!
Also rides a Honda
Posts: 1346
Threads: 13
Registered: December 17th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Adelaide
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 11:37 AM |
|
|
I've already experienced this, SA made the switch on July 1st 2011. My Beetle got one of the very last rego stickers, with expiry 31st June 2012. My
other car was registered afterwards and hence has no sticker. I do like not having the sticker on the car, as it gives the windscreen a cleaner look.
However, as mentioned the extra effort of checking whether a car is registered or not can be annoying. There is an EzyReg smartphone app for both
Android and iPhone which lets you check the make, body style, colour and registration expiry date from the rego number. The same info is available
online.
|
|
|
69bug
Officially Full-On Dubber
Posts: 300
Threads: 24
Registered: January 21st, 2012
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 03:59 PM |
|
|
just put it on the quater window, no biggie aha
1969 1500
|
|
|
vlad01
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
Posts: 4270
Threads: 109
Registered: June 3rd, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Kyneton, VIC
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Side ways
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 04:21 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by AA003
It will make it easier to swap number plates between vehicles.
|
lol
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE |
|
|
vlad01
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
Posts: 4270
Threads: 109
Registered: June 3rd, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Kyneton, VIC
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Side ways
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 04:25 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by waveman1500
I've already experienced this, SA made the switch on July 1st 2011. My Beetle got one of the very last rego stickers, with expiry 31st June 2012. My
other car was registered afterwards and hence has no sticker. I do like not having the sticker on the car, as it gives the windscreen a cleaner look.
However, as mentioned the extra effort of checking whether a car is registered or not can be annoying. There is an EzyReg smartphone app for both
Android and iPhone which lets you check the make, body style, colour and registration expiry date from the rego number. The same info is available
online.
|
they say on the rta website you can check any rego number to see if its current. so there is no problems checking if the car you are buying is rego'd
or not. Sounds easy enough.
personally I don't care much but less stickers the better. so far the only sticker I have is that one. The orange ones look the shitest 
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE |
|
|
vlad01
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
Posts: 4270
Threads: 109
Registered: June 3rd, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Kyneton, VIC
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Side ways
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 04:27 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by modulus
I look at rego labels to find out what year a car was 1st registered; in Vic we do not even have to write the receipt number, so the label is no proof
of current registration.
|
most people I know forget to put on the currect sticker and drive around with 1 or 2 year old stickers. No probs, cops don't even notice anyway.
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE |
|
|
waveman1500
Custom Title Time!
Also rides a Honda
Posts: 1346
Threads: 13
Registered: December 17th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Adelaide
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 07:17 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 69bug
just put it on the quater window, no biggie aha
|
I do have it on the quarter window on the bug, it's my other cars which used to have it on the windscreen.
|
|
|
amazeer
A.k.a.: Surly Duff
Bishop of Volkswagenism
Posts: 3029
Threads: 387
Registered: November 14th, 2005
Member Is Offline
Location: Wollongong
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: bitter
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 09:31 PM |
|
|
I have never ever looked at a rego label before I got in to drive a car, either friends car, loan car, work car, hire car. In fact this year I got in
my car for 2 weeks after rego expiry before I found the renewal notice still in envelope in the spare room in a pile of papers. Its bad enough having
to get to a mechanic for a pink slip let alone having to go to the rta, stand around for an hour waiting for some arsehole rta person to scowl and
carry on like they are doing me a favour swapping several hundred in return for a sticker with a receipt to prove rego. I havent been in for a simple
renewal since you were able to pay online and write your own receipt number on. I dont think it will make much difference to anything and I am happy
not to have to clean the window each year. Actually, if they dont hit my property I dont really care if others drive unreg.
The recognition cameras are awesome and can check thousands of plates an hour. You'll get caught if you regularly use an unreg car. When they first
came into play there were so many unreg cars on the road they were issuing fines all day. If only they had some facial recognition cameras to get all
the unlicenced drivers.
When I got my latest car the rego had expired by a few days. The dealer I got it off gave me a filled out new registration form instead of a transfer
form. The forms are almost identical with the new rego one having more info on it. I couldnt reason with the guy that everything he needed to know was
on the form already filled in. So I had to go away and get my wifes signature on the transfer form, wait in line again. They gave me a label, I walked
out... to find it had the expired date on it. Back in, wait in line again.
 
|
|
|
byronbus
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
dsk
Posts: 4204
Threads: 119
Registered: July 16th, 2003
Member Is Offline
Location: Byron Bay
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: dsk founder
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 10:19 PM |
|
|
Great idea...
How will it make it easier for shonks?
How does a rego sticker tell you if a car is registered, you can still have a sticker and not be registered...
Swapping plates wont be easier, the police use their computer, even the parking rangers use their computer, wrong plates on wrong car will still be
picked up...
Sticker doesnt remind me to pay my rego, most people with multiple cars know when their rego is due, unless your loaded, most people budget for it and
know when its coming...
|
|
|
SuperOwen
Fahrvergnugen
Posts: 868
Threads: 67
Registered: January 18th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 10:21 PM |
|
|
Anyone who complains about not having rego stickers any more is a whingy old coot.
|
|
|
1303Steve
A.k.a.: Steve Carter
Scirocco Rare
Posts: 8650
Threads: 564
Registered: August 27th, 2002
Member Is Offline
Location: Sydney, NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Parrot Heading
|
| posted on May 30th, 2012 at 10:39 PM |
|
|
Hi
OK with plate recognition thing and no sticker, if you say had 2 white beetles apart from someone physically comparing chassis numbers and engine
numbers assigned to that number plate who would know. If they are going to rely on big brother methods that's what might happen.
Steve
|
|
|
waveman1500
Custom Title Time!
Also rides a Honda
Posts: 1346
Threads: 13
Registered: December 17th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Adelaide
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
|
| posted on May 31st, 2012 at 12:09 AM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi
OK with plate recognition thing and no sticker, if you say had 2 white beetles apart from someone physically comparing chassis numbers and engine
numbers assigned to that number plate who would know. If they are going to rely on big brother methods that's what might happen.
Steve
|
That could just as easily happen with a sticker on, so it really makes no difference. Old cars don't have their VIN in the windscreen, so there's no
way of checking without opening the car. Not to mention the fact that before 1989, the motor reg in SA didn't even record body/VIN numbers anyway!
They only relied on engine numbers. So, unless you get pulled over and the police are suspicious enough to check your engine number, nobody would ever
know. If the police are checking this, they can very easily look your car up on their computer rather than having to look at a sticker.
|
|
|
Uber Kafer
Wolfsburg Wizard
Posts: 414
Threads: 50
Registered: November 12th, 2009
Member Is Offline
Location: Bunbury (BunVegas) WA
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Need a bigger shed..
|
| posted on May 31st, 2012 at 02:11 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by SuperOwen
Anyone who complains about not having rego stickers any more is a whingy old coot.
|
Troll behaviour is always intended to provoke and offend and is taken as offensive and generally contributes nothing to the discussion.
Having and expressing concern about the broader implications of an ill concieved govt policy change to a larger user-group than ones self is not
usually a whinge, or the exclusive right of 'old' people, its about integrity.
Clown.
|
|
|
Joel
Scirocco Rare
Now containing 100% E-Wang
Posts: 9368
Threads: 211
Registered: February 14th, 2006
Member Is Offline
Location: Northern Rivers NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Purple
Mood: Tact Level 0.00
|
| posted on May 31st, 2012 at 03:15 PM |
|
|
I'm surprised there is so much objection to it, I reckon it's a great idea as the rego stickers now are pretty much redundant anyway.
I've been guilty of not swapping mine on occasion.
Fact is nearly everyone now carries a mobile phone with internet access so it can be checked at anytime.
It just took me less than 30 secs on the RTA website to punch in my plate on:
https://myrta.com/regcheck/pages/content/termsAndConditions.jsf
It tells everything that is on my rego sticker plus more like who my greenslip is with and when it expires, any engineers certs, concessions
etc.....
The stickers are just a nuisance, good riddance I say.
|
|
|
vlad01
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
Posts: 4270
Threads: 109
Registered: June 3rd, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Kyneton, VIC
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Side ways
|
| posted on May 31st, 2012 at 04:05 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by byronbus
Great idea...
How will it make it easier for shonks?
How does a rego sticker tell you if a car is registered, you can still have a sticker and not be registered...
Swapping plates wont be easier, the police use their computer, even the parking rangers use their computer, wrong plates on wrong car will
still be picked up...
Sticker doesnt remind me to pay my rego, most people with multiple cars know when their rego is due, unless your loaded, most people budget for it and
know when its coming...
|
not if its the same model and color of car. I know a few people that have done that and have been driving a "different" car with "wrong" plates
for 10 years + lol highly illegal but it just shows how lop hole can be exploited.
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE |
|
|
vlad01
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
Posts: 4270
Threads: 109
Registered: June 3rd, 2010
Member Is Offline
Location: Kyneton, VIC
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Side ways
|
| posted on May 31st, 2012 at 04:14 PM |
|
|
| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
I'm surprised there is so much objection to it, I reckon it's a great idea as the rego stickers now are pretty much redundant anyway.
I've been guilty of not swapping mine on occasion.
Fact is nearly everyone now carries a mobile phone with internet access so it can be checked at anytime.
It just took me less than 30 secs on the RTA website to punch in my plate on:
https://myrta.com/regcheck/pages/content/termsAndConditions.jsf
It tells everything that is on my rego sticker plus more like who my greenslip is with and when it expires, any engineers certs, concessions
etc.....
The stickers are just a nuisance, good riddance I say.
|
I just checked mine. says I have a fastback lol. Suddenly I have also weight reduction do they actually weigh the cars or just make up some bogus figures for the database?
At least they got the color right
71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE |
|
|
| Pages: 1 2 |
