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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 12:07 PM |
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Which Fasty is best?
Hi volks. At some point in time, I'm gonna have to stop ignoring my (sometimes disturbingly primal) urges and buy myself a Fastback. I want an early
one and I'm told that the last of these had discs, four-stud wheels and semi-traling links (which'd be nice, because I see a big-inch Type 4 in its
future).
So which model do I want? Is it a 67 or 68 (as I suspect) or have I just described some mythical Type 3 of legend that never really existed?
Also, if anybody has one they don't need any longer...(I have cash and those urges I mentioned).
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 02:37 PM |
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posted by davodawg
Hi volks. At some point in time, I'm gonna have to stop ignoring my (sometimes disturbingly primal) urges and buy myself a Fastback. I want an early
one and I'm told that the last of these had discs, four-stud wheels and semi-traling links (which'd be nice, because I see a big-inch Type 4 in its
future).
So which model do I want? Is it a 67 or 68 (as I suspect) or have I just described some mythical Type 3 of legend that never really existed?
Also, if anybody has one they don't need any longer...(I have cash and those urges I mentioned).
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hey davo,
mate dont go the poor mans Type 3... they rust. HAHAHAHA
i have a very nice 68 Notch for sale
cheers matty
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 03:19 PM |
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| Quote: | hey davo,
mate dont go the poor mans Type 3... they rust. HAHAHAHA
i have a very nice 68 Notch for sale
cheers matty
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Yo Matty. I had a Notch years and years (and years) ago. Liked it, too, but I always reckoned the Fastback was the better looking version.
Got a Kodak of your car (or a link to one)?
Meantime, am I right? Is the 67/68 Notch/Fasty the model to go for?
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 03:43 PM |
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68 would be the first year of discs from memory, but you'd have to go 69 to get factory IRS, and then 70 was first year of the shark nose fatchicks
so your limited to 69 if you want factory disc and IRS but early bumpers.
In saying that though Type 3s are piece of piss to convert to IRS though if you can get the sub-frame from a later car.
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 05:08 PM |
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68 automatics have the IRS, but you would have close to zero chance finding one in Australia. Most 68's built in Australia were 5 stud, swing axle,
all drum set up.
69's all have 4 stud, IRS and disc brake front in Australia, and still have the early body shape. So this is what you are looking for.
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 05:19 PM |
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally
posted by davodawg
hey davo,
mate dont go the poor mans Type 3... they rust. HAHAHAHA
i have a very nice 68 Notch for sale
cheers matty
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Yo Matty. I had a Notch years and years (and years) ago. Liked it, too, but I always reckoned the Fastback was the better looking version.
Got a Kodak of your car (or a link to one)?
Meantime, am I right? Is the 67/68 Notch/Fasty the model to go for?
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mate as the lads said... 68/69 is a good year then you go into the not so skinny version of the Type 3
what are you actually looking for? resto? rust? rat? daily? regoed? etc etc
PM me your email... ill send you links to the 68/70... But be careful you may go back to a Notch
do you want links to both?
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 06:02 PM |
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| Quote: | mate as the lads
said... 68/69 is a good year then you go into the not so skinny version of the Type 3
what are you actually looking for? resto? rust? rat? daily? regoed? etc etc
PM me your email... ill send you links to the 68/70... But be careful you may go back to a Notch
do you want links to both?
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Hi mate. ccording to the forum rules, I don't have enough posts to PM you. But I'd dearly love the links you were talking about. Can you PM me?
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 08:21 PM |
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posted by davodawg
mate as the lads said... 68/69 is a good year then you go into the not so skinny version of the Type 3
what are you actually looking for? resto? rust? rat? daily? regoed? etc etc
PM me your email... ill send you links to the 68/70... But be careful you may go back to a Notch
do you want links to both?
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Hi mate. ccording to the forum rules, I don't have enough posts to PM you. But I'd dearly love the links you were talking about. Can you PM me?
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PM sent mate
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| posted on June 20th, 2012 at 08:24 PM |
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buy a 67, 12 volt , old style bumpers and indicators, last of the drums allround.. The best looking fasty. if you want to 'modernise' it , easy to
convert to front discs , just bolt on late model spindles and disc brakes (front) and 4 stud rear drums. The 73 discs were bigger again, used on the
vw/porsche 914, but hard to find, 69-72 more common and repro parts available. Again the hi-back front seats up to 72 also slot straight in. The later
front seats have a third mount. Again converting the rear end to irs , much is bolt on but the rear engine mount requires some welding.The early wiper
arms used a tapered shaft and would become loose,the later models the arm had a nut to hold the wiper arm on, but they reversed the arm orientation.
The "68 only" wiper arms and spindles bolt straight into an early model.Anyway without 'bagging' the beetle the type 3 was a far nicer vehicle to
drive and more room .Woul
d happily cruise on the freeway at 75mph.
best of luck
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 07:38 AM |
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buy a fattie much better driver
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 10:29 AM |
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Ok, 68 is the first year of 4 stud and 12V, in Ausrtralia there are a few 68s that have the 5 stud brakes but they are few and far between and an
australian quirk.
68 will be a swing axle rear end. A 69 will have IRS. 68 will also be the first of fuel flap on the front D/s guard.
69 will also have a different air vent knobs on the dash to a >68.
This being said a type 3 can be easily converted to disc with ALL bolt on parts from a later model (discs, dual circuit master cyl, etc) also a 12v
conversion isnt hard to do either, all of which i have done to my notch (1965).
My advice find the car (year + shape) you like and convert.
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 10:41 AM |
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buy a fattie much better driver
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or a 68
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 10:48 AM |
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Thanks folks
Hey out there. Thanks to everybody who's weighed in on this debate. Seems like any early Fasty will give me the look I want and I can modify the
underneath bits to make it do what I want.
Happy to listen to all suggestions and, in the meantime, just wanted to say I appreciate the info given up so far.
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 05:18 PM |
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notice how its all the type 3 heads that posted, all a little bias too
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 06:25 PM |
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Well I certainly don't fit into that category.
The only one I ever owned was bought for the rear end and gearbox then scrapped 
I know, shun the murderous outsider
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 06:52 PM |
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 07:29 PM |
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live
without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days
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| posted on June 21st, 2012 at 08:05 PM |
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notice how its all the type 3 heads that posted, all a little bias too
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christopher... some people just don't appreciate real beauty
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live
without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days
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They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live
without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days
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They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....
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BOOM
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posted by subimanx
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live
without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days
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I can think of at least 3 in Vic
They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....
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BOOM
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VW 411 (412)
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live
without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days
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They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....
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I know of one here in Baulkham Hills. Its just sitting under a cover in a carport waiting for the old lady that owns it to finally give up and sell it
to me. Only a matter of time...
Life's short, drive tastefully.
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yeh the 411's are the go,not the 412 rubbish!!! LOL
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live
without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days
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theres one for sale is SA and it has been for a while
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I know of a 411 wagon in WA too. Not running no motor.
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hey adam what about glennyc s fasty? late body shape but dated a 69 and its not the only 69 i seen with the fatty nose
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Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....
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ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live
without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days
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They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....
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As far as I know there were some small handful imported here and there but not officially by vw? I believe by other dealers other than vw??
the official VW record haven't mentioned any being ever imported. Someone got any info to prove otherwise? would love to track some cars down for
myself
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They were private imports.
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hey adam what about glennyc s fasty? late body shape but dated a 69 and its not the only 69 i seen with the fatty nose
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| posted on August 15th, 2012 at 12:05 AM |
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wait, so mine is a 69? I'm confused... haha.
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